dssaak wrote: Yes, the Falcon is the next generation to my Blade. There is also the Viper › pages › viper). Nacra makes an F16 as well. We now ha...

Well, thanks for all the help. Eventually, these are the cats, and I'll have to pick one. I really want to rent a Wave and see how it feels before any...

dssaak wrote: I have owned mine for 35 years. Basically, I am keeping it for the grandkids. The only time I take it out to sail is if it is blowin...

dssaak wrote: Better choice ... F16 of whatever manufacturer you can get your hands on. Yes it has boards but they are very light and easy to handle...

tominpa wrote: There are a lot of Prindle 16 cats around that are inexpensive, amazingly light, easy to move around on the beach and more stable and f...

dssaak wrote: There isn't a whole lot of bouancy in those H14 hulls. I have beenn watching some videos and started to understand what you mean with th...

MN3 wrote: Nothing wrong starting and learning on 90's sail plan - esp if you have basic sailing skills to start with I don't know if I have the basi...

tominpa wrote: I would not touch a H14, or for that matter an H16 as an adult or especially large adult. Lots of better choices. I am 150lb. So...Wh...

MN3 wrote: Meh What does 'meh' mean?

wxguy wrote: If you have your heart set on a H14, contact Jason Sanchez in St Pete, FL. I believe he has 3-4 good ones for sale at this time. I will....

MN3 wrote: Taipan 4.9 which has the same weight as the Hobie 14 and much newer model. problem with these cat's is there is no N.American support and ...

dwk wrote: I have over a year before I move. One H14 will pop up by that time. If not, then a Wave will do just fine. Here's one in Ocean City . An...

danielt1263 wrote: I only mention it because sun said earlier, "I wanna smoke all the Lasers!" I just wanted to warn that on a Wave, there won't be a ...

danielt1263 wrote: ...In other words, the Sunfish is harder to sail than the Wave. Also, a well sailed Laser is every bit as fast as a Wave. (The Lase...

texastuma wrote: It is possible, but is it worth it? Not worth it. MN3 wrote: i have seen upgraded h16's downhaul but never on a wave... I have ove...

JohnES wrote: You shouldnt need a new "race" sail for the Sunfish to upgrades you noted - the "hacks"you're taliking about can be found on Lee Montes ...

JohnES wrote: How about a Prindle 16? I'll check it out. Thanks.

dwk wrote: Anyway, I started on a Prindle 18 and it was a blast. Though I had to call for help a few times when I tipped it until I was able to right ...

JohnES wrote: You shouldnt need a new "race" sail for the Sunfish to upgrades you noted - the "hacks"you're taliking about can be found on Lee Montes ...

they sell kits to upgrade from the stock 2:1 to more purchases for easier setting you can change out the stock cleat for a clam cleat, I wouldn't wor...

MN3 wrote: EDIT: "(inboard placement for a fuller sail, outboard for a flatter sail)." I think i got this backwards: - pretty sure it is inboard fo...

MN3 wrote: The downhaul on the wave (like other hobies) is a simple cleat on the mast. You tie off the line to the cleat, around the sail grommet and ...

johnoau wrote: I'd be trying to think a bit longer term, if you're going to be sailing with a club at Lake Michigan, see if you can suss out what the ...

texastuma wrote: Maybe consider a Hobie 17? Hobie 17 is a nice one too.Edited by sun on Nov 28, 2022 - 04:13 PM.

MN3 wrote: those features ever as it looks like my first cat possibly won't have a boom - Perhaps a cunnigham and a traveller for the mast. Every cat ...

I'll be moving by Lake Michigan in a year or year-and-a-half. I want to get into cat sailing as soon as I'm there. Currently, I am doing okay with my ...

johnoau wrote: ... but it all depends on why you want to the H16. Speed. I wanna smoke all the Lasers! :)Edited by sun on Nov 28, 2022 - 10:37 AM.

Thanks again, everyone. I've watched some YT videos, and I think I cannot right an H16 solo - at least, at this stage. H16 will be my future goal. A b...

Wave seems to be a fun one to learn on. Though, just the tiller and one line to deal with, I won't gain experience with cunningham, traveller, and out...

charlescarlis wrote: none of the boats you're considering are very tolerant to beginner abuse. I thought Wave was very tolerant to beginner abuse. But...