nacra 5.2 help

There is supposed to be a 10-hole stay adjuster attached to those "turnbuckles"

pic 21

That line is for some other purpose

i have the adjuster its on the forstay. do you have any idea what the line it for?

That part that the ring is attached to is not a Nacra part. I have no idea what it may have been used for on a Nacra 5.2, unless it was something used to help step the mast with a line running through the ring. Just a guess.

Prindle 16s and 18s used that between the bridle wires and the turn buckle on the end of the fore stay attached to it. Not the ring though.

not on my 5.2 either

where do the nylon lines go?

That's not a standard Nacra part.

I do think that you need to get some new bridle wires. I've been on the water with less rust on mine and while we were 2 on the wire, and we had cranked the downhaul and outhaul. When puling the main tight the bridle exploded! we limped back to the beach with only 4 of 9 parts of the wire still attached.

dichtbijzee wrote: That's not a standard Nacra part.

I do think that you need to get some new bridle wires. I've been on the water with less rust on mine and while we were 2 on the wire, and we had cranked the downhaul and outhaul. When puling the main tight the bridle exploded! we limped back to the beach with only 4 of 9 parts of the wire still attached.

im looking at the the wires to see what the owner needs. i need shrouds for sure as they are frayed.

erice wrote: not on my 5.2 either

where do the nylon lines go?

same place as the bridle on both sides

my guess is:
looks like a custom (jerry rigged) bridal system, and the lines are there to avoid it slipping around during stepping (or from sliding while sailing)

If you need a new bridal setup, call mike at ellie's sail shop in clearwater if you need help

PS your hand looks HUGE compared to the cat in this pic with that perspective.

optikid wrote: so i got the sticker off now i need to rig it and when i was looking at the bridles i could not figure it out.

the line connects to the same place as the wires. what is it for?
also does this boat rig up the same as a hobie 16?
thanks

Edited by MN3 on Jan 21, 2013 - 08:19 AM.

so what would the ring be for?

Edited by optikid on Jan 21, 2013 - 09:29 AM.

the forestay wraps around it (loops from that ring to the eye of the forestay, just like the ring on a jib furler

if a longer pin was used and the ring was pinned in the same whole as the 2 bridal wires, the 2 guy lines would not be needed

the trailer looks brand new...
But it doesn't look like there is any carpet on the cradles. if there isn't ... he/you should add some asap or it will mess up the hulls when taking on/off the trailer

it is new, i believe there is carpet

It may just be the perspective of the photo, but it appears your front beam is rotated somewhat. The DS rod should be vertical, & the ends of the V brace strap(where they touch the hulls)must be up against the small SS tang that is set in the side of the hull.
Download both manuals from the tech section, thyere old, but they have the intel you need for that boat.
As stated the ring/lines are not any standard NACRA part.
Did the previous owner sail on the ocean, perhaps where there wasn't a convenient beach to pull up on?
That line & ring could just be a convenient way to attach the boat to an anchor. The ring would be clipped to the mooring line, allowing the boat to swing freely into the wind, while crew takes a break.
The mast appears to use the non captive base.Be very careful, to not let the base pops off while stepping. If you ever need a spare boom let me know, I have 2 of them.
Tie a stopper knot in your traveler line so the car won't quite hit the ends of the track.
It does not appear to have the pivmatics, or any kickup device...try not to hit any reefs!
Make sure you have a system to hold the daggers in place, if you flip the boat & they happen to slide out...they don't float.

Edited by Edchris177 on Jan 21, 2013 - 04:03 PM.

Edchris177 wrote: It may just be the perspective of the photo, but it appears your front beam is rotated somewhat. The DS rod should be vertical, & the ends of the V brace strap(where they touch the hulls)must be up against the small SS tang that is set in the side of the hull.
Download both manuals from the tech section, thyere old, but they have the intel you need for that boat.
As stated the ring/lines are not any standard NACRA part.
Did the previous owner sail on the ocean, perhaps where there wasn't a convenient beach to pull up on?
That line & ring could just be a convenient way to attach the boat to an anchor. The ring would be clipped to the mooring line, allowing the boat to swing freely into the wind, while crew takes a break.
The mast appears to use the non captive base.Be very careful, to not let the base pops off while stepping. If you ever need a spare boom let me know, I have 2 of them.
Tie a stopper knot in your traveler line so the car won't quite hit the ends of the track.
It does not appear to have the pivmatics, or any kickup device...try not to hit any reefs!
Make sure you have a system to hold the daggers in place, if you flip the boat & they happen to slide out...they don't float.Edited by Edchris177 on Jan 21, 2013 - 04:03 PM.

the guy i working on it for bought it 3 years ago something happened and has was unable to sail it. he has never rigged it. i haven't seen his daggerboads or sails yet

I wonder if the ring goes at the end of the bridle wires with the shackle facing up where the adjuster would mount and the lines were backup shroud wires in case the bridle broke. Just a thought.

I have a line sort-of like that. on My 5.2 which I use as an anchor bridle. The anchor is an extra safety feature to me and I use it to have lunch whenever I spend a long day on the water and can't be bothered to pull it up on shore. Anchoring without a bridle is no fun at all because the boat will either sail and drag the anchor or shear from side to side hitting me over the head with the boom whenever I'm not looking. ( I almost think it does that on purpose 😉
If you don't need it you may as well lose it, it would just add clutter and it also makes handling on the ground that much more hassle.

Yeah that is definitely not stock. Start from a stock setup and adjust to fit your taste later. If you don't have it, you will need a 10 hole adjuster to connect the bridles to the forestay. If you don't have the little steel triangle to attach the jib to the adjuster you can just use a bow shackle instead. Simpler is better at the start, then you can get fancy with things like portuguese turnbuckles, roller furlers etc etc.

Edchris got me thinking- I think I only secure the boards with the side loaders, but they can be pulled straight out. Any suggestions as to how to do it differently? I'm seriously looking forward to another thing to add to the already time-consuming rigging procedure.

BTW- maybe all the recent rains will bring the GA/SC lake levels back up so we can get the cat in the water instead of the mud. 😀

how about a simple bungee lanyard loop around the side stay ?

Any suggestions as to how to do it differently?

hyperope wrote: Edchris got me thinking- I think I only secure the boards with the side loaders, but they can be pulled straight out. Any suggestions as to how to do it differently? I'm seriously looking forward to another thing to add to the already time-consuming rigging procedure.

BTW- maybe all the recent rains will bring the GA/SC lake levels back up so we can get the cat in the water instead of the mud. 😀

the f18 sailors at my club tie the blades together then put one under both the hiking straps

i used the trailer winch to raise it and haven't taken the line off yet

so i was looking at it today and found some more questions.
can some one describe the jib halyard, i thought it would be like my 16, but there is a block on the wire then the one end of the line ends at the block with a bowline the other end goes threw a v cleat.

that block is not supposed to be there right?

is that line and blocks on the boom supposed to be a boom vang? and do i tie any thing to the rotator bar?

Edited by optikid on Jan 25, 2013 - 03:26 PM.

The block is used to double the purchase on the jib downhaul.

Some used the block on the rear beam to double the purchase on the main traveler.

The boom is upside down. the line and block is part of your rotator and should be connected to the "rotator bar".

Edited by nacra55 on Jan 25, 2013 - 03:39 PM.

There is no block block on the mast.for the jib I must be missing it. How do I set up the block for the traveler?
And the boom is not upside down because the outhaul is on the top right now.and the only spot for the.main block is on the bottom. Were do the rotation lines go? Thanks

Do you have the two manuals from the Albums- Tech? Most of what you need is in them, though the photos are a bit grainy.
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=35212

Jibs are item 60 in the second manual.

Rotator picture
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=74198

Another with rotator on top like most are
Also shows block on halyard with downhaul on front of mast
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=35570

and another
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=35584

Edited by nacra55 on Jan 25, 2013 - 05:18 PM.

Here's a pic of the travler rigged with the block on beam
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=35578

optikid wrote: can some one describe the jib halyard, i thought it would be like my 16, but there is a block on the wire then the one end of the line ends at the block with a bowline the other end goes threw a v cleat.

You aren't missing anything. Some boats had a wire block on the mast with the wire part of the jib halyard going thru that.

Some had the wire block off a pigtail on the fore stay. It sounds like that's what you have. I've hunted for a picture for you but have yet to find one. Look on page 8, standing rigging picture 2, you should have something like that. http://www.clublocarno.com/Resources/Documents/Sailing%20Documents/NacraManual.pdf

In Pic 2, the blocks and red line on the port side of the mast are your main downhaul, but I do not see a mast rotation control arm attached to the mast?