Marek, are you stabilizing the mast by tying the trapeze wires to the corners of the front beam? I would think that forming a triangle using 2 trap wires to the front beam, then raising using another trap wire or the forestay might allow for the mast to start upward on its side and rotate to the straight position as the mast is raised. Not sure if the Prindle mast has a pin to capture the mast ball.
Tom, that's the way I have it on the P16, there's a bungee on each forward trap wire tied to the forward beam. I have not tested this yet on the P19 but may consider it next time I get around to testing the set up more. It's probably worth adding anyway, there's really no downside.
The mast won't rotate while raising since it's secured via a pin to a bracket at the mast base.
tominpa wrote: Marek, are you stabilizing the mast by tying the trapeze wires to the corners of the front beam? I would think that forming a triangle using 2 trap wires to the front beam, then raising using another trap wire or the forestay might allow for the mast to start upward on its side and rotate to the straight position as the mast is raised. Not sure if the Prindle mast has a pin to capture the mast ball.
Edited by marekli on Oct 09, 2016 - 11:17 AM.
I can get a pic of my setup, I use the trap wires to to pull the mast up.The winch has a remote.I set the mast on the base ball with the other end on a 6 to 8 ft ladder.The mast support on the trailer has a telescoping inner piece to get the angle right. I get on the tramp and use the remote to lift the mast helped by me keeping it centered.I can do the p19 and B-lion mast solo this way.Cat has to face into the wind.
be great if you could post a video pulling up the mast on the P19 for us...
onekiwi wrote: I can get a pic of my setup, I use the trap wires to to pull the mast up.The winch has a remote.I set the mast on the base ball with the other end on a 6 to 8 ft ladder.The mast support on the trailer has a telescoping inner piece to get the angle right. I get on the tramp and use the remote to lift the mast helped by me keeping it centered.I can do the p19 and B-lion mast solo this way.Cat has to face into the wind.
I am setting up the B-lion on friday and will make a vid
I'm in need of a system as well ..I've got a 1986 P19 & am following this thread. Im vertically challenged at 5"4 & have a bad back. I've got an EZ up gin pole but haven't tried it yet.
had our first sail with it last Wed but had plenty of help to get the mast up.
Like Marekli , the P19 mast is rotated 90 degrees & pinned at the mast base but pulling from the fore stay or trap wire seems like it would put on a side load.
I've thought about using two trap wires & wrapping one around the back side so it comes around the mast so it would be pulled from both sides but I'm afraid it would slide down the mast a bit & scratch it up
Can't wait to see Carl's video.. thanks for doing this! 😎
My name's Carl as well
1986 Prindle 19
Nacra 450
O'Day Javelin
carl
I agree, the rotated mast on the Prindle 19 throws quite a wrench in the mix.... when I initially tested it, it didn't seem a huge problem when the mast was further down. I wonder how that goes though when the mast is further up since the support person loses leverage as he walks it up on the tramp to the forward beam. It may all come down to following a simple, safe and sound protocol with checks and balances...maybe it takes a few practice runs with a helper before doing it at a busy parking lot.
carl2 wrote: I'm in need of a system as well ..I've got a 1986 P19 & am following this thread. Im vertically challenged at 5"4 & have a bad back. I've got an EZ up gin pole but haven't tried it yet.
had our first sail with it last Wed but had plenty of help to get the mast up.
Like Marekli , the P19 mast is rotated 90 degrees & pinned at the mast base but pulling from the fore stay or trap wire seems like it would put on a side load.
I've thought about using two trap wires & wrapping one around the back side so it comes around the mast so it would be pulled from both sides but I'm afraid it would slide down the mast a bit & scratch it up
Can't wait to see Carl's video.. thanks for doing this! 😎My name's Carl as well
1986 Prindle 19
Nacra 450
O'Day Javelin
OK here we go first time video.I have used this setup on the P19 also.
onekiwi wrote: OK here we go first time video.I have used this setup on the P19 also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HCa_zn3BB8Edited by onekiwi on Oct 29, 2016 - 01:10 PM.
Looks like you got it figured out, do you think that winch will be ok exposed to the elements all the time?
What is your boat? The video says "B-Line" is it the B-Class B-Lion in your sig? Does it fold like this? Always thought that was a good solution to wide boats, but how hard is it to do?
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I got around the hassel of attaching the forstay bridle by making the connections at the bow chain plates. Granted it's two connections but their right at waist level and you're not trying to hold anything up while making the shackle. I dig the rig.
Hey Damon yes it is the b-lion, actually the folding thing is a pain in the butt, way too much work!.We have it on a trailer assembled at the moment and tow it a half mile to the lake to sail it. Works out good as once you get it to the beach all you have to do is throw the mast up and go sailing.Will get a pic of it on the beach.The winch is held on a plate i welded to the trailer upright so i can take it off and fit it to any boat I have.
Edited by onekiwi on Oct 30, 2016 - 04:50 PM.
I got around the hassel of attaching the forstay bridle by making the connections at the bow chain plates. Granted it's two connections but their right at waist level and you're not trying to hold anything up while making the shackle. I dig the rig
Yup it can be a problem getting the pins in sometimes,your idea sounds good, maybe next time around I will get three hands haha