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Down haul system with a smyth main for prindle 19

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(@thegoldstar)
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I've been slowly piecing together this puzzle of a project-prindle 19!

Today I was totally stumped by the downhaul system...I have a smyth Dacron set of sails, and the tack of the main doesn't have a grommet or anything to hook up the downhaul to, just a quick pin...it's weird hand I think I'm clearly missing someone. Can someone give me some ideas? Maybe I need to put in some cheek blocks on either side? Do they connect with pins or is that why the quick ion is there?

Thanks for your help!

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 6:43 pm
Ron
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No grommet on the lower several feet of the luff of the main?

Ron Beliech
Nacra F-18
Brandon, MS

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 7:01 pm
Dave Farmer
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Yeah, we need a pic I think, you're description leaves me blank.

Dave

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 7:18 pm
pete begle
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My Smyth sails always have cheek blocks either side of tack. Pete

prindle pete

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 7:31 pm
(@thegoldstar)
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Sorry, trying to figure out pic posting now....will post one hopefully soon

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 8:22 pm
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Posted : May 16, 2015 8:29 pm
(@thegoldstar)
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Success!! Except for it being upside down

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 8:30 pm
(@thegoldstar)
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Pete could you show me a pic of the cheek blocks? What size are they and how to attach?

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 9:11 pm
Ron
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Yes, looks like your missing a set of cheek blocks. Interesting that it's 3 holes. I would have thought there would have been 2 cheek blocks on either side of the sail.

Got a pic of the bottom foot or so of you mast? Expecting to see a cheek block, a clam cleat and a pivoting exit block on either side and a single block in the center of the base.

Ron Beliech
Nacra F-18
Brandon, MS

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 9:31 pm
(@thegoldstar)
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I will have to take one In The next day or so, that sounds about right...how do I know what size to get for the blocks?

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 9:40 pm
Ron
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Probably the micro (16MM) but could be the 29mm.

Probably 29's on your mast.

Ron Beliech
Nacra F-18
Brandon, MS

 
Posted : May 16, 2015 10:00 pm
pete begle
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It's a Harken cheek, murrays # 28-0092, $19.30 ea. Use a small pr of stainless bolt & nut to attach. Pete

prindle pete

 
Posted : May 17, 2015 6:48 am
MorrisCovin
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Goldstar, I went out and took a couple of cellphone photos of my P-19 Smyth main downhaul blocks. I also have 2 cheek blocks that are mounted on the mast near the boom attach point. Some P-19's have a different set-up on the mast. I have a line about 3-4 feet long tied to the mast/boom gooseneck, this line is routed up to one of the sail cheek blocks, down to cheek block on mast, back up to other cheek block on sail, back down to other CB on other side of mast, back up to regular block on sail and finally back down to base of mast where I have a jam cleat. All lines run through the mast rotator.

I'm trying to figure out how to post the photos, this website is useless for easily posting photos. Send me a pvt msg with your email and I will email the photos to you.

I think I figured the photos out, crazy how a person has to go to so much trouble to post a photo here.

I'm now realizing I need to replace the corroded rivits on plate. lol

Edited by MorrisCovin on May 17, 2015 - 10:09 PM.

 
Posted : May 17, 2015 3:52 pm
MorrisCovin
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I'm betting since it has that quick-pin the previous owner just used a triple block hanging below the tack plate. Would do the same thing as the cheek blocks. Just add a "D" shackle for quick-pin to go through.

Edited by MorrisCovin on May 17, 2015 - 10:20 PM.

 
Posted : May 17, 2015 4:18 pm
(@thegoldstar)
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This is great, thanks Morris, the pics are a huge help. I ordered a set of cheek blocks, will put it all together and see if it makes more sense...do you think I need the hanging block as well or will it work with just the cheeks? Also since you have the same sail and boat, I'm wondering which sail battens you use? I have to get a new set, not excited about spending the money on them, but for sure want everything to work correctly...thanks again!

 
Posted : May 18, 2015 8:57 am
MorrisCovin
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Goldstar...I'm not sure what brand battens I have. I know they are glass. I had a Prindle 16 that had the foam battens and they work really well. They cost more and break easy. Just stick with glass. I know several of the major sail lofts/designers use RBS battens. I've heard they are one of the best.

http://www.rbsbattens.com/

You need the small single block that hangs from the tack plate. That way you get 5:1 on the downhaul. (I think that is right. lol

 
Posted : May 18, 2015 10:26 am
MN3
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I know several of the major sail lofts/designers use RBS battens. I've heard they are one of the best.

they are used a lot in modern cat sails and sail lofts

I have a matched set in my 6.0 main and jib (matched to the sail)- it is nice but you pay for it

i would recommend new battens with new sails, but you can get away with replacing a few broken ones with old and used ones ..

I have mixed types (glass and foam) in my 5.5 main and f18 mains I own

Edited by MN3 on May 18, 2015 - 05:44 PM.

MN3

 
Posted : May 18, 2015 11:43 am