Ever since i mentioned i had a friend with a front tramp on his prindle...i have had several requests to put people in touch with him.
I spoke with my friend. He has requested i do not forward him any ones contact info as he is to busy man with career, family and desire to sail more. He can not help people with this or any other projects.
He suggest you contact and support your local spar shop for info, ideas, costs, info etc.
But you should document your project and post the info so others can learn from what you work out..
I will (re)post my front tramp info and an assortment of other custom front tramps when i take pictures next weekend.
MN3
I created a small tramp by simply putting 2 eyestraps just below the deck 2' infront of my beam (with a backing plate)... (i had ports to access the hulls)... and i simply tie a small tramp as seen. It holds my anchor and cooler...
He added a front beam on his prindle... then had a custom tramp cut....
http://a611628.sites.myregisteredsite.com/a/cat/tramp.asp
MN3
Please at least thank your friend for providing the inspiration that fuels our desires. And thank you for being patient and putting up all our requests.
It is hard to see something someone else has done that you admire and would also like to do and not try to grill them for any and all information on how they accomplished it. I personally just hate to try to reinvent something that I see someone else has done so successfully. Being pretty much just a casual sailor and very new at that, getting a nice front end tramp or net area for me is a great modification. I am not unskilled but have never done anything like this before and do not have the means to pay someone else to do it for me.
That said any others that have done this before and have info, tips, tricks, and ideas. I have a Prindle 18 just like andrews buddy and would love to put a front tramp/net on it. I think I would be safe drilling small holes in the fiberglass lip of the deck since the back tramp uses something similar to secure it by lacing through these holes and the tramp side tabs. But the holes on the back tramp are on the outside of the hulls no the inside like I was thinking they would need to be for the front. This means that the strain is pulled opposite of how the real tramp is designed. I may have to consider taking it across the hulls like the back. But I still have no idea how secure the front and back of it. I may have to get some spar pricing on that part of it but that is unlikely to happen this season unless finances change
Dustin
Magna, UT
Prindle 18
i have friends from out of town coming in this weekend.. but i will try to get detailed pics of several different front tramps for you (and their stitching)
MN3
Awesome!!!
Dustin
Magna, UT
Prindle 18
what he did was create a front beam (from a mast) that mounted into the front of his hulls. i am not 100% sure his method.. but it is a mast section with mounting brackets.
He had a 9 or 10 step process to acid wash,pit, seal, prime and paint this beam. then mounted with screws
the front of the tramp slides through the beam (MAST TRACK) to secure it in place.
The tramp was custom made by a shop.
I can tell you that a 2' x 6' tramp with pockets was going to cost me $250 at sunrise yacht comp (tramp makers. I haven't bought it yet and still have my Ghetto version on the boat.
This really is a big job... to do the way he did it
MN3
I bet a spare beam from a parted out prindle 18 or 16 would also work this way then and require less customization at least on the beam part.
Just have to find the best way to mount it to the hulls. Heck maybe even 2 of them one right in front of the regular front beam then the front tramp could go on pretty much just like the back one with some lacing on the sides and either front or rear to stretch the tramp.
I wonder if you you could have an existing prindle 18 or 16 tramp cut down and restitched to fit this setup but with less length. I believe they are both the same width aren't they?
Thanks Again
Dustin
Magna, UT
Prindle 18
I was not able to get any pictures this past weekend.. but i will
MN3
When I do finally get a working front tramp I think I will call it the Bikini Deck(Tops optional).
Dustin
Magna, UT
Prindle 18
OK ... sorry for the delay. here are the pics...
edited by: andrewscott, Apr 28, 2009 - 11:07 AM
MN3
That's a neat setup.
Good photos Andrew.
did it add much weight?
Fraser
i think it was under 10 lbs
MN3
Does he trailer his boat backwards? If I had a front beam that far forward I wouldn't be able to get my boat far enough on the trailer facing front. I am playing with the idea of trailering mine backwards as well so the mast can stay in the trailer mast rest until I pull it up but doing so makes it so I can't use the winch to winch it up.
I like what I see I think I may place mine right behind the bridle wires though so it is not so far forward. His kinda Triangular right. I think Mine would more square fronted. I need to see if my neighbor can weld aluminum. I have a couple extra of those threaded bars he used for attaching from an old P16 up the street. I may need a couple more it looks like but Murrays has em.
Dustin
Magna, UT
Prindle 18
6/2/09UPDATE:
i have ordered a custom built front tramp. should be in next week
I will post images and if i love it
MN3
Quarath wrote: Does he trailer his boat backwards?
Yes, almost everyone i sail with does it that way. it took me a while to get ok with raising and lowering it over my Lexus.. but i have never dropped it... (well once on my H18... on my gf.. but that was my fault)
Quarath wrote:
I like what I see I think I may place mine right behind the bridle wires though so it is not so far forward. His kinda Triangular right.
Not sure what you mean by "kinda Triangular", the sides are at an angle... but you can see this in the pictures.
MN3