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(@racer_x3)
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Lubber
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I'm a neophyte and just inherited this... Can anyone help me identify what it is by these pictures? I can't find any markings. I'd like to sell it as I don't have the time for another hobby right now. Thanks in advance.




 
Posted : September 16, 2013 4:57 am
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I was advised that it might be a Nacra? Any specific idea?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 5:04 am
rwj0j0
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Prindle 19mx maybe.... what's the HIN?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 5:23 am
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HIN? Sorry, I know *nothing* about this.

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 5:40 am
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Hull identification number - should be on the stern of starboard hull - (at the back of the right hand hull)

I would have said NACRA too but I've never seen a NACRA that didn't have round crossbeams. Somebody here will know for sure though!

Do you have the mast? and the sails?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 5:47 am
Damon Linkous
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racer_x3 wrote: I'm a neophyte and just inherited this... Can anyone help me identify what it is by these pictures?

racer, welcome to TheBeachcats.com,

Looks like a modern design, does that box have the rest of the boat? The logos on the sails would tell you a lot as well as the shape of the rudders (wiggly things at the back) and daggerboards (long thin spear things that pierce the deck).

Where are you located? Can probably find someone to take a look.

The HIN is the Hull Number that all manufactured boats are supposed to have. Usually located on the sterns, but can be imprinted in the fiberglass anywhere, or sometimes on a plate attached to the boat.

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Posted : September 16, 2013 5:48 am
rwj0j0
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LOL perhaps it is the "White Whale" - the Prindle 20...
How long is it? Is it 20 feet long?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 5:57 am
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Thanks for the input. As soon as I can (tomorrow) I'll check the HIN. It only has the hull, trampoline, and some assorted hardware-- no mast or sails. It does have a carbon / fiberglass? pole tied up under the trampoline; is that a boom?

I'm in Sarasota, FL. Would I need a title for this, or will a bill of sale suffice?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 5:59 am
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I bet that pole under the tramp is for righting.
No mast or sails? yikes... that typically lowers the value a lot

Most places "unpowered" boats only need a bill of sail. The trailer though probably needs a title.
And that looks like an aluminum trailer with a nice storage box.

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 6:02 am
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I'm sure that this will have to sell as a parts- or project-boat. Someone suggested that it looks like a Taipan?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 6:16 am
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That's what it is - a Taipan.

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 6:18 am
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Progress! http://www.ahpc.com.au/index.php/catamarans-3/taipan

So... is this a valuable hull? I'd like to see it go to good use. I'd love to get into sailing myself, but I have to wait until my car project is back together or my girlfriend will smother me in my sleep...

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 6:22 am
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I would keep looking for the rest of the boat if I were you... It had a mast and sails once.

Post a picture of what's in the box

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 6:29 am
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I'm fairly certain the box has little or nothing in it, but I will do so tomorrow. There is only one other place that the mast or sails may be, and I will likewise check, though I'm not optimistic. Any idea of value of selling this as a hull to someone who has a donor with mast / sails, etc.?

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 6:34 am
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Turns out I have at least the sails...

 
Posted : September 16, 2013 7:12 am
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Definitely not a Nacra, beams are wrong,(older Nacra used round beams, the newer ones are "D" shaped) & the top rudder mount is to high.

The trailer is an aluminum Trailex & worth money. Take some photos & post it here under Classifieds. You will sell it right away. In fact make a PM post to Andrew, (MN3), he has been looking for one of those, he's in Destin.
If it turns out you don't have a mast,rudders, or blocks, it may be a parts boat. I would search where it came from. The mast may be up in the rafters, or buried in the weeds. The blocks etc could be stored inside. If the sail is in decent shape, post it here too.

Edited by Edchris177 on Sep 17, 2013 - 08:22 AM.

E C Hilliard

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Posted : September 17, 2013 1:41 am
rwj0j0
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We know it Taipan - most likely a 4.9

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 1:58 am
Rob Granger
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Yep... good advice. If you can find the mast, then it is worth a few grand. Without the mast... you would have to part it out to get much for it... and be patient in selling it all off. PITA

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 3:22 am
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In Florida to legally purchase, sell or use a boat you need a title. also need a separate registration for the trailer

This has been a hassle (especially for out of state sales)

At our local tax collector, a local sailor was trying to get a title to sell his (old) catamaran and got in an argument with the tax collector.

They told him he was now suspected to be holding stolen property (the boat) and he would have to prove it wasn't stolen and an officer would be out to his house to investigate. he chopped up the boat and threw it out lol

I'm in Sarasota, FL. Would I need a title for this, or will a bill of sale suffice?

Edited by MN3 on Sep 17, 2013 - 09:56 AM.

MN3

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 3:54 am
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haha - close - Dunedin

In fact make a PM post to Andrew, (MN3), he has been looking for one of those, he's in Destin.

MN3

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 3:57 am
Philip
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Andrew is in Dunedin area, not Destin.

Philip

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 3:57 am
Rob Granger
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MN3 wrote: In Florida to legally purchase, sell or use a boat you need a title. also need a separate registration for the trailer

He might just get under the wire....

This is from the Florida DMV's website FAQ list...

Is a non-powered vessel required to be registered and titled?

If the non-motor powered vessel is less than 16 feet in length, it is not required to be registered or titled. However, if the vessel is 16 feet or more in length, it is required to be registered and titled.

Is this cat 16' or less? If so... you do not need a title.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 4:20 am
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It looks like a taipan 4.9 to me. It would be 16ft.

That Trailex is pretty old, check the 45 degree castings for cracking.

Edited by bacho on Sep 17, 2013 - 10:56 AM.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 4:53 am
Rob Granger
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MN3 wrote: In Florida to legally purchase, sell or use a boat you need a title. also need a separate registration for the trailer

I just looked up the Florida rules. It states that non-motorized boats of 16' or less are exempt form registration.

so how long is this cat? If it is a 4.9, then it is right at 16'. If so, then no title needed.

Ooops Sorry. didn't mean to post twice. My computer did something strange and I didn't see my post.

Edited by rgranger on Sep 17, 2013 - 01:09 PM.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 4:59 am
Mike Catley
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I have a mast for a 4.9. It's a blank however so it will need base, top, spreaders etc.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 6:22 am
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After looking at it again could it be a Taipan 5.7? I know there is or was one on the west coast . Also regarding the registration of boats in Fla. I read something that excludes canoe type hulls from title and registration. Otherwise 18' canoes or kayaks would be required to be titled and registered. Now if you add a motor that changes things. Our boats are canoe type hulls as far as the state of Fla is concerned. The problem would be selling your boat out of state where a title would be necessary.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 6:42 am
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that is old data - - Copyright ©2008 State of Florida
( http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/faqboat.html#7 )

as of 2010 - all boats (legally) must be titled, 16' and under don't have to be registered

http://myfwc.com/boating/regulations/#nogo

rgranger wrote: [quote=MN3]In Florida to legally purchase, sell or use a boat you need a title. also need a separate registration for the trailer

I just looked up the Florida rules. It states that non-motorized boats of 16' or less are exempt form registration.

so how long is this cat? If it is a 4.9, then it is right at 16'. If so, then no title needed.

Edited by MN3 on Sep 17, 2013 - 12:55 PM.

MN3

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 6:44 am
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haha - good luck using that as a defense if your ever ticketed

"Vessel Registration
All vessels, with the exception of non-motor-powered vessels less than 16 feet in length, non-motor-powered canoes, kayaks, racing shells or rowing sculls, regardless of length, must be registered through your local Tax Collector's Office"

Our boats are canoe type hulls

Edited by MN3 on Sep 17, 2013 - 12:55 PM.

MN3

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 6:51 am
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Some would even say they are pontoons! LOL

MN3 wrote: haha - good luck using that as a defense if your ever ticketed

"Vessel Registration
All vessels, with the exception of non-motor-powered vessels less than 16 feet in length, non-motor-powered canoes, kayaks, racing shells or rowing sculls, regardless of length, must be registered through your local Tax Collector's Office"

Our boats are canoe type hulls

Edited by MN3 on Sep 17, 2013 - 12:55 PM.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 7:01 am
Mike Catley
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http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2012/327.02

Read #4. They use the term Canoe and then Canoe like.

 
Posted : September 17, 2013 8:04 am
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