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Bridal Foil ????

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Robert Braid
(@turbohobo)
Posts: 613
Chief
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Am I correct in my understanding that a bridle foil is designed to negate the inward force (pull) of the forestay on the bridle wires, in other words it stops the bows from bending inward? For my winter project, I want to clear my tramp of the jib blocks and move them onto the forward crossbeam, in order to do this, I will take Pete's advice and move my bridle wires 18" forward on the bow of both hulls. My concern is this will exert more inward bend on the hulls so I am considering a home made bridle foil, any/all suggestions/experiences?

thanks
turbo

Turbo

On-The-Edge-Of-No-Control

 
Posted : October 31, 2011 2:44 am
Steve
(@dichtbijzee)
Posts: 132
Mate
 

You are absolutely correct. Bridal foils keep the forces up. But remember there will be a lot of compression forces on the foil.

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Posted : October 31, 2011 2:53 am
Elias
(@HULLFLYER)
Posts: 878
Chief
 

If you move the bridal wires forward you will lose the balance of the platform that the factory designers intended. You will also increase the chances of pitchpoling because you moved the center of effort way forward, especially when sailing off the wind when it starts blowing a bit. I have always been a firm believer that the factory puts a lot of time and money into research and development and with that in mind I always try and keep every thing as it was intended to be.

 
Posted : October 31, 2011 4:33 am
(@matt922)
Posts: 287
Mate
 

n6.0 bridal foil is a common upgrade on p19s since the earlier ones often had "working" hulls. It also allows you to use a bigger jib since the forestay goes down that much further πŸ˜‰

Also note that the nacra foils have a pelican striker to add strength. If you wanted, a N5.8 foil would probably work on your p18.

 
Posted : October 31, 2011 4:34 am
yurdle
(@yurdle)
Posts: 742
Chief
 

I think you'd be better to rake the mast forward a touch and use an I17 (or similar) beam mounted jib. I think you're asking for trouble moving the forstay forward, even with the bow foil. It's also a much smaller modification to switch jibs and move the blocks.

turbohobo wrote: Am I correct in my understanding that a bridle foil is designed to negate the inward force (pull) of the forestay on the bridle wires, in other words it stops the bows from bending inward? For my winter project, I want to clear my tramp of the jib blocks and move them onto the forward crossbeam, in order to do this, I will take Pete's advice and move my bridle wires 18" forward on the bow of both hulls. My concern is this will exert more inward bend on the hulls so I am considering a home made bridle foil, any/all suggestions/experiences?

thanks
turbo

Rob

Nacra 5.2
OKC, OK

 
Posted : October 31, 2011 5:52 am
David Bonin
(@Wolfman)
Posts: 1555
Master Chief
 

I also think a smaller jib would do the trick better. That's basically what they did to all the Nacra's when they went from overlapping tramp mounted jibs to self-tacking. I don't think it affects performance all that much, you still get the slot effect which is more important than the total area of the jib. And it's less effort and money! Spend that on a square head main and watch the boat become supercharged! πŸ™‚

Regards,
Dave

Dave Bonin
1981 Nacra 5.2

 
Posted : November 1, 2011 4:44 pm
MN3
 MN3
(@MN3)
Posts: 7090
One Star Admiral
 

making major modifications to hardware and/or sail plan can produce unreliable results.

you may find a certain wind range (and angle) that benefits from the modifications but it is very likely in more ranges (and angles) the mods will be a detriment..

I have seen this in effect a few times locally. A friend put a self tacker on his cat only to suffer upwind in light air, and downwind in most air.

Also we have a p-18-2 that put a p19 mast and not stock sails on it. I dont think he had favorable results

MN3

 
Posted : November 2, 2011 3:23 am