So you think i am not telling the truth about crewing (and solo sailing) on g-cats over the past 18 years that i have sailed catamaran in the area ?
I have nothing to gain by lying about this - just like i have nothing to gain by engaging with you
jsb4g wrote: :liar:
[quote=MN3][quote=jsb4g]Have you ever rigged a GCat yourself? I think not.
rig solo? nope
rig as knowledgeable crew who knows how every system on the boat works and can solo helm without issue - dozens and dozens of times - i crew on a 5.0 and 5.7's and handle aspect and line from the main to the spin halyard. "Stock" reeving and many "non stock setups" - what's your point?
MN3
Newb here, also curious about the jib system for a G-Cat 5.0
Can someone help me understand what the blue line is and how to utilize it?
Edited by selkie on Aug 29, 2017 - 11:20 AM.
Prindle 19 manual says this about that
"To side to side lead:
Set at 8” inboard in light air.
Move position outboard as wind picks up
until lead is about 2 to 5 inches inboard
when you are a little overpowered.
You may find in certain downwind conditions
that having the barberhauler (option and
seperate from the four-way jib system) all
the way out is too far for proper wind flow.
In medium to heavy conditions setting the
barber 8 to 15 inches from fully outboard is
optimum."
carl
This info is for another type of jib system and barberhauler
carl2 wrote: Prindle 19 manual says this about that
"To side to side lead:Set at 8” inboard in light air. Move position outboard as wind picks up until lead is about 2 to 5 inches inboard when you are a little overpowered. You may find in certain downwind conditions that having the barberhauler (option and seperate from the four-way jib system) all the way out is too far for proper wind flow. In medium to heavy conditions setting the barber 8 to 15 inches from fully outboard is optimum."
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Can someone help me understand what the blue line is and how to utilize it?
The blue line is one type of in / outhaul system (looks like the setup used in the manual - or damn close)
this is used to change the position of the jib block and optimize windflow over your sails and increase speed/fun - (can also be used to depower when there is too much "fun" (wind) )
IN GENERAL: ceteris paribus ...
Upwind - you want the jib blocks "more" in-board
and in light wind and waves - forward
Downwind - you want the blocks "more" out-board
and some times forward
by pulling the bitter end (the end of the line) and cleating it you will change the position of the jib blocks, in or out. There is no forward or aft "feature" with this setup - and people looking for more options may add another dedicated system (forward, on or near the front beam) -
MN3
selkie wrote: Newb here, also curious about the jib system for a G-Cat 5.0
Can someone help me understand what the blue line is and how to utilize it?
Edited by selkie on Aug 29, 2017 - 11:20 AM.
This is the stock/original jib setup on the GCat 5.0. In the manual (both the written one and the diagram), the blue line is referred to as the barberhauler. As my nemesis said, let out down wind, and pull in when sailing up wind.
MN3 wrote: This info is for another type of jib system and barberhauler
[quote=carl2]Prindle 19 manual says this about that
"To side to side lead:Set at 8” inboard in light air. Move position outboard as wind picks up until lead is about 2 to 5 inches inboard when you are a little overpowered. You may find in certain downwind conditions that having the barberhauler (option and seperate from the four-way jib system) all the way out is too far for proper wind flow. In medium to heavy conditions setting the barber 8 to 15 inches from fully outboard is optimum."
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Can someone help me understand what the blue line is and how to utilize it?
The blue line is one type of in / outhaul system (looks like the setup used in the manual - or damn close)
this is used to change the position of the jib block and optimize windflow over your sails and increase speed/fun - (can also be used to depower when there is too much "fun" (wind) )
IN GENERAL: ceteris paribus ...
Upwind - you want the jib blocks "more" in-board
and in light wind and waves - forward
Downwind - you want the blocks "more" out-board
and some times forward
by pulling the bitter end (the end of the line) and cleating it you will change the position of the jib blocks, in or out. There is no forward or aft "feature" with this setup - and people looking for more options may add another dedicated system (forward, on or near the front beam) -
For once, we agree on something re GCat.
out of curiosity ,do you have line/cleat or clip down rudder system?
Edited by jsb4g on Aug 29, 2017 - 02:22 PM.
Moved to new thread
Edited by carl2 on Aug 29, 2017 - 03:26 PM.
carl
MN3 & jsb4g Thank you both, extremely helpful. Glad to see you both in agreement!
jsb4g It is the clip down rudder system.
but I wonder why the Prindle 19 manual would tell you to move them in for lighter air..
I don't think that is wrong:
(upwind) Start (or set) them inboard and move them more and more out as the wind picks up and you get overpowered
that is accurate and what i do on my boat too (which is VERY similar boat in design)
I would argue that is correct on all beach cats that i have ever seen or sailed as well.
The thing i was calling out is the OP is a self claimed -newb, and the p19 manual is talking about a 6 way system (4 way + "barberhauler").
The gcat manual refers to the barberhauler as what most people calls the jib outhaul system and this could all be very confusing to some
Edited by MN3 on Aug 29, 2017 - 03:32 PM.
MN3
MN3 wrote: awesome!
did you say your getting the work done in Mexico ?
where will you mostly sail?Sent you a Private Message as well
[quote=rockypointbob]I've been told my hulls should be finished this weekend. If that's the case, I'll be able to install the new tramps and start playing with the rigging. Will get some pics posted as soon as I can.
Thanks all for the information....this is certainly a learning experience!
Edited by MN3 on Aug 22, 2017 - 09:10 AM.
I'll be sailing in the Sea of Cortez! Wide open. Actually, I believe there's a regatta this weekend.
awesome - enjoy!
MN3