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Whats the difference between a P18 and a P18-2

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Brad Jones
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Curious as to what the difference is between the Prindle P18 and The P18-2.

Just give me wind cause i already got water.

 
Posted : April 29, 2009 5:44 pm
Damon Linkous
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Completely different boats. The 18 is a boardless asymetrical bannana hulled all around boat, the 18-2 is a higher performance boat that some fans call a mini-Tornado since it has similar lines and centerboards.

Prindle 18

Shows Prindle 18 flat sided asymetrical hulls.

The Prindle 18-2 and 19 are so much alike they use the same assembly manual.

Need some good pictures of the 18-2, couldn't find any in the albums that show the hull shape and centerboards.

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Posted : April 29, 2009 6:17 pm
Brad Jones
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Did they both have or come with multi-colored sails.And what does the 2 stand for,Thanks for the info it's nice when i can learn something new daily.

Just give me wind cause i already got water.

 
Posted : April 29, 2009 6:27 pm
Dustin Finlinson
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All the 2 means is that it is not the same as the P-18. Since they are both 18ft Prindles but are completely different boats like said above.

I have no idea what sails they both came with but mine has Tequila Sunrise and is a P-18

edited by: Quarath, Apr 29, 2009 - 11:08 PM

Dustin
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Posted : April 29, 2009 7:03 pm
Doug B
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brjonair wrote: Curious as to what the difference is between the Prindle P18 and The P18-2.

The two are like night and day! I sail an 18-2. It's a Prindle 19 that's 1 foot shorter in length. Rotating centerboards, symetrical hulls, no deck lip, not prone to pitch-poling, lots... make that LOTS of floatation up front in the hulls! I've plowed head-on into 8-foot waves and the bows just pierce through. But it also means that your crew will be sitting literally on the front crossbar. Crew weight must be forward on the 18-2.

It's a fairly fast boat, but a little heavy at 375lbs. Certainly no F-18 or Inter or Tiger, etc. I bought it because it's very forgiving and easy to sail. I often solo sail mine. Lots of sail control lines. For what it is - it's a fast boat. No "serious" racer, but one of the fastest of "family cats". It'll do circles around Hobie 18's and 18 magnums.

Downsides with the 18-2: The stock downhaul sucks. Set it and forget it. That's the first thing to be upgraded. No stock roller-furling jib and factory sails have no windows in them. Stock mainsail isn't square-topped like the 19MX. The biggest downside to the 18-2... If you want to race, you'll probably always be open-class. There aren't a lot of them and certainly no one-design fleets like a Hobie 16 or Wave.

 
Posted : May 1, 2009 9:35 am
Damon Linkous
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Thanks for checking in, good to hear from an owner.

Great info... except the part about sailing "circles" around Hobie 18's! :-O Must be some slow H18 skippers in your neck of the water! πŸ˜†

Just kidding, sort of, the 18-2 is slightly faster than the H18

Portsmouth ratings
P18-2
69.1 72.6 71.7 68.7 65.1

H18 and H18 Magnum
71.4 76.8 73.5 69.5 66.8

You have a substantial advantage in extremely light air. (less than 3 mph) but after that it's pretty close.

F18 numbers for comparison
62.4 65.4 63.9 61.3 59.5

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Posted : May 1, 2009 10:43 am
Doug B
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Actually 'damonAdmin', you are RIGHT! It IS all about the sailor! Maybe that is the reason why I'm always sailing circles around other cats with ratings so close, if not better, than that of my boat. And all this time I thought it was in the boat. Silly me!

 
Posted : May 4, 2009 3:25 am
Damon Linkous
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Doug-p182-590 wrote: It IS all about the sailor! Maybe that is the reason why I'm always sailing circles around other cats with ratings so close, if not better, than that of my boat. And all this time I thought it was in the boat. Silly me!

Absolutely! I sail a lot of Portsmouth regattas with a mixture of boats, once you seperate out the spin boats it's anyones ballgame.

Maybe you are just good? πŸ˜‰

I've been beat boat-for-boat by excellent Hobie 16's and I've beat faster rated boats. Who gets around first on triagles has a lot more to do with not making mistakes and sailing the correct course (finding the wind and keeping the boat moving).

On long distance races the faster bigger boat will usually prevail if it's not carrying too much weight. (which is usually my problem)

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Posted : May 4, 2009 9:10 am