beat up not so old man

Don't fret to much if the wife doesn't take to the water to much. My wife has been on the boat a few times but prefers to sit on the beach on read most of the time. The sailboat has become the focus of our family summer vacation fun with long weekend camping at the lake and such. My wife has probably had more fun sailing on other peoples boats than ours. She had a great time on a friends N20 with 2 of my sons and that trip included a capsize where she was separated from the boat and a dagger board banged her in the shin. She has also been out on another friends monohull and had some great fun.

We have a sailing group we go with to several outings over the summer and she hangs with the other women and has a great time. She also makes for excellent ground crew (usually) backing the trailer like a pro (though she has a tendency yo float the the thing), and even rescuing us off other beaches from time to time when we were starting out and ended up landing on different beaches than we started on.

Well, I don't know what to say. Things are starting to come together. I am blessed. is all I can say except thank you to everyone and one special thanks to someone for gifting me a pair of sails. I was called away to Cathy when first inspecting them but could easily tell they were very useable. After taking care of Cathy I got them spread out and they turn out to bet in pretty good shape. There are even grommets in place for shortening the sail area to make things slow down to make it comfortable so as not to scare Cathy. At least I think that's what they are for. Maybe not real pretty but not ugly either. Actually, I think they are gorgeous. I believe I will get Cathy to at least ride on it with me this summer. I already bought her a ski vest and will show her she can't sink with it on. I also found a trampoline for cheap in Panama City Beach and hopefully I will learn a few more things about MY boat. At least enough to know what is still missing.

Well I am glad your on your way. Those holes are for Reefing the sail.

Hey good luck on the restoration, tdive on ebay.... send him a message if you don't see what you want. I asked for some stuff and he created a listing for me. The hardware pack in my opinion was a mixed bag. I got 9 gudgeons? really 9, 3 bent shroud adjusters, but a whole bunch of useful stuff like rudder bolts and other hard to find stuff. All in all its worth it even tho I'm going to throw half of it out.

when I finally get around to getting all my stuff together I should have some nice writeups in the tech section. Im still working on the rudders and I've got the trailer in a million pieces right now too.

bacho wrote: Well I am glad your on your way. Those holes are for Reefing the sail.

Thats what I thought, I just couldn't get the word to come to me. i often know what is going through my mind but having trouble recalling the correct words sometimes. I once thought I was getting alzheimers but its just with words and faces. I'm never lost or totaly confused so I can live with whatever it is.
Hi Bob. I'll check it out but I'm hoping to find most if not all that I may need at Starboard Marine tomorrow. I know I will know more tomorrow evening than I do now.

bobcatnj wrote: Hey good luck on the restoration, tdive on ebay.... send him a message if you don't see what you want. I asked for some stuff and he created a listing for me. The hardware pack in my opinion was a mixed bag. I got 9 gudgeons? really 9, 3 bent shroud adjusters, but a whole bunch of useful stuff like rudder bolts and other hard to find stuff. All in all its worth it even tho I'm going to throw half of it out.

when I finally get around to getting all my stuff together I should have some nice writeups in the tech section. Im still working on the rudders and I've got the trailer in a million pieces right now too.

I've seen some of those do the parts in any way match what is in the pic for the sale or are they just random?

For me it was a mixed bag, I got crossbar bolts and rudder bolts all bent. I'd say 50/50 on useable vs junk but I got some stuff that would be expensive to replace. So I'm very neutral on the purchase, but as soon as I break or loose a part that I have a replacement for I'll feel like a genius.

I got back from Panama City with a better mast, a trampoline with the lines for installing it, a seaway block and tackle, and shroud adjusters. I also got a little more knowledge about my catamaran. I need to figure out how to make a boom and rig up the seaway block and tackle and make a new set of rigging. Almost forgot the drain plugs. They always seem to be the last thing I remember if I remember them at all. I need to figure out how to make a back rest for Cathy to be able to ride with me. She is just too weak to be able to sit up by herself. Does anybody know of a setup like that that anyone has made. I don't want/need a wing setup, just something to help Cathy hold herself up and not fall over and I figure a back rest would work best for her.

dtfuqua wrote: She is just too weak to be able to sit up by herself.

Does she need to sit up?
The tramp on a P16 is pretty comfy.
Cathy could just lie on it and still have plenty to see.
(I have spent many glorious nights sleeping on one lakeside)
When my grandmother was 73, she crewed for me in a local regatta. Two races, the second one SABCABCF. She laid on the tramp, held the jib sheet and rolled to the other side when we tacked. She was smiling the whole time (and slept the entire ride back to town afterward).
You won't be in any tacking duels, so if the air is light Cathy may not have to roll at all. Prop her head up with a throwable and she may feel safer than she would sitting on the edge of the hull anyway.

Edited by klozhald on Mar 14, 2012 - 03:47 PM.

I don't think she would enjoy laying down for a sail. Its a Prindle and I have heard that it gets pretty wet on them and the tramp is mesh. I wouldn't have her moving back and forth for tacking or anything. Thats one of the special things about the sails I have, They have a reefing setup already with grommets in the sail to keep the stress and speed down.

Congrats on the boat, I agree with Quarath don't be concerned if your wife doesn't take to sailing. Mine hates it amd I am on my 4th cat. I wish she would go but it ain't happening. I still love her.

Prindle can bet a bit wet on the tramp but that is not a big deal on a hot day. And not as bad in light cruising breeze unless there is waves. Just don't make it a extra long journey stay where you can go back in quick when she has had enough. Get your feet wet and some boat handling sorted a bit before you take her out so you have enough confidence to get where you need to when you want to. My first couple long regatta type sails I didn't even make it back to the same beach I started from.

First was due to mechanical difficulties. My tiller crossbar adjuster must have been just shy of out of the threads and it came apart at a not so good time.

Second was highs winds and a blown tack that put me on the sand at a shallow beach just shy of of the one I needed. I decided the wind was too much and had the wife bring the trailer over there. Wife's can make excellent ground crew. Except she get the suburban stuck in the sand and had to get help getting it out.

The problem with Cathy is that while she isn't old, opportunities to do things with her are getting fewer every day. I've been wanting to do this before she is unable to do anything. It may be too late anyway. But thanks for the help.

Google "stadium seat". The type without any metal. It is basically a seat cushion with a fold in the middle and nylon straps that adjust to make the cushion into an "L" shape. You could probably find one with some attachment points so you could make the seat fast to the trampoline and have one on each side. Just a thought - never seen it done before.

Probably way more complicated - but Hobie 16's used to be popular among disabled racers and many were modified to have "trap seats" which were like wings.

First off from me, congrats on the progress. If I read all this correctly, you've done all on a dime...certainly possible but still incredible.

Forgive me but I want to throw out a safety thought that came to minde here. And I do so as I recently learned how quickly things can get crazy out on the boat.

Consider how things would work if you take your wife out and you capsize. I'm not saying don't do it but if she can't get back on the boat, you should anticipate that and have some plan in mind.

Hope it all goes well and you both have a good time.

Bert

Yes, I am aware of how quickly things can go wrong. Even a day with expected winds of 10 to 15 knots can change with a small squall line storm coming through without much warning. I had/have plans to only take Cathy out just past the swimming area here where help is just seconds away and not try to thrill her with speed or distance. The real plan for her safety is a ski vest on her at all times. One that we have tried out and will keep her head above water no mater what condition she's in. As for the cushion, I plan to have a backrest made for her to have something to support her and a couple of the sit-on PFDs on leashes to keep track of, for us to sit on. And I will also pad the backrest once I come up with a suitable design.

coastrat wrote: so i bought a set from salty dog ...

Coastrat have you had a chance to put the rigging to the test? What do you think? My problem is I need to buy new EVERYTHING stainless cable-wise. I mean diamond wires trap lines and all the stuff holding up the mast. I like the idea of saving like $200-300 bucks but like you I take out a lot of young ladies...I can't risk a failure. I know you have a lot of experience with Prindle rigging so you are the man: Salty Dog or Murrays?

Thanks for any input

pirateboy27, haven't rigged the boat up yet so i can't comment on the saltydog set. it looks good on inspection and such but it hasn't had my 25kt wind/4-7 seas stress test yet. my fat azz will test at full capacity hopefully within the next 2-3 weeks. it may just be a marketing thing but i perceive the murray's to be a higher quality simply because of price...i like the option of the hydraulic pressed eye on the ends of the shrouds but budget restraints sent me in the arms of salty dog...time will tell. i see standing rigging as a disposeable wear item on a well used cat like mine(4-6 years), and i really like to push the old girl...i gotta radio and tools, i'll get her home sooner or later!

I think I'm going to send for the SaltyDog rigging set. I went to west marine today and while they were helpfull, I was running around town trying to get enough pieces together to make up a complete set. They didn't have enough parts if you put all the stock from three stores together. I finally got fed up running to all the hardware stores within reach and after figuring out the retail prices of all the small pieces cost after even finding them, I wasn't saving very much. I hope the SaltyDog rigging sets are good.

I hope the SaltyDog rigging sets are good.

They are in my opinion. I ordered a complete set of standing rigging and a main halyard from Salty Dog about a year and a half ago for a Hobie 14T. I've used it a lot since. I'm very pleased with it.

Thank you. Thats good to hear.

but like you I take out a lot of young ladies

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golfdad75 wrote:

but like you I take out a lot of young ladies

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I'm 48, married to a fantastic babe, and have 2 daughters, 13 and 19. The young ladies I take out are them, and thier friends. I just WISH I was this big time playah....like coastrat is

i'm a sex machine!!!....just ask my right hand!!!

Coastrat, advice for you and your lover: shower her with romantic adventures that take you both to new, exotic locations where relaxation and stimulation go hand-in-hand. She will surely purr with delight in these exciting and exhilerating settings. Champagne and dark chocolate can enhance and heighten her sense of arousal. These sublime efforts will initiate a fireworks display fit for Independance Day: 1976 Style.

Oh yeah, wash your hands when your done Dude. :computer:

I received the rigging set for my P16 from Salty Dog Marine. It is a nice looking set of rigging. It has two swags on every end except the little pig tail thing and it is double swagged at the large ring on that part. I can't be for sure since they didn't have all the hardware needed to make a full set of rigging when I went to make it up at west marine, but I don't think I could have made it any cheaper myself after purchasing everything at retail. I'm very pleased with this complete set of standing rigging from Salty Dog Marine. Now, the only thing I'm still missing is a boom. Although I do still need to modify my kayak trailer (modified jet ski trailer) to carry the catamaran. And Cathy has stated she would go sailing with me when I get it ready so I'm gonna still have to make a pair of backrests for her. I have this figured out and just need to get the metal for both the backrests and the trailer modifications. This is going to work as long as Cathy is able to enjoy herself.

Edited by dtfuqua on Mar 24, 2012 - 01:49 PM.

There is one for sale in the classifieds

http://www.TheBeachcats.com/classifieds/catamaran-parts/p11843-prindle-16-parts.html

just remember shipping long items like that adds a lot.

Thanks. Shipping can sometimes cost more than the parts are worth. I am also looking into how to make my own boom but can't get any good pictures of one to figure it out. Theres no hurry yet so I still have options.

Does the prindle 16 use a bolt rope on the boom as a H16 does?

I would put a wanted add on CL, there has to be plenty of those around.