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1st Run!

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(@bobflesh)
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First trip out on our new to us 1980, H18. Now since I have not sailed in 25 yrs I was a little concerned. We set the boat up in less than record time, but got it on the water. 1st pass out boom tackle just wasn’t quite right; set up by previous owner but I could not see the problem. On the way back in boat handled like I was dragging an anchor. 1st rule don’t put the boat in the water without the plugs in the pontoons! Luckily we did not sink it. Drained water life is good, still concerned with boom tackle.

Other cats on the beach so asked for help. Missing shackle from tackle to traveler. Seeing post on this form I had purchased an assortment of hardware; had on in the kit. Now we’re sailing!

Well I am happy to report I can still sail! Need to adjust the release on the rudders, and better shock cord on the dagger boards; had a few hard landings. Came close to rolling once but remembered to steer into the roll and saved it. Going to take a bit to get use to sitting on the wings, that really changes things.

As I was sailing with my daughter and grandson on day two she said it,”best $600 you have spent dad”!

Thanks for helping this newbie get the boat on the water, and thanks to whoever it was at Mission Bay San Diego this past weekend for the help with the rigging!

Question: Is there a right or wrong tension on the rudders, or is it a matter of preference?

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 10:55 am
Edward Hilliard
(@Edchris177)
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1st rule don’t put the boat in the water without the plugs in the pontoons!

Ha Ha...there are very few people who can honestly claim they have never done that.

E C Hilliard

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Posted : July 27, 2015 12:29 pm
Damon Linkous
(@damonadmin)
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bobflesh wrote:
Question: Is there a right or wrong tension on the rudders, or is it a matter of preference?

Glad you got on the water! You have a great place to sail.

The rudder kickup is not an exact science, especially with the old style (pre-1987) rudder castings that have the metal cams. If that is what you have then be glad if they kick up at all, they can become worn and stuck. With the boat on the trailer or sterns lifted by beach wheels you can lock down the rudders and pull back on the end of the rudder to "feel" how much pressure it takes to kick them up.

If you haven't already I would remove, clean, and lube (white lithium grease works great) the plastic tension adjustment screw and spring in the castings to make sure it is adjustable. If they are clean and lubed you should be able to turn the plastic plug/screw with a large flat screwdriver, although you may have to increase the size of the slot in the plastic to get enough grip.

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Damon Linkous

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 1:18 pm
(@klozhald)
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bobflesh wrote: As I was sailing with my daughter and grandson on day two she said it,”best $600 you have spent dad”!

Best reason to go sailing ever.

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 1:42 pm
(@bobflesh)
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DamonLinkous wrote: [quote=bobflesh]
If you haven't already I would remove, clean, and lube (white lithium grease works great) the plastic tension adjustment screw and spring in the castings to make sure it is adjustable. If they are clean and lubed you should be able to turn the plastic plug/screw with a large flat screwdriver, although you may have to increase the size of the slot in the plastic to get enough grip.

They did not kick up at all and were very difficult to lock in. I have not yet serviced them but will follow your instructions before I take it out again. Thank you

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 5:51 pm
(@bobflesh)
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Best reason to go sailing ever.

You bet!

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 5:54 pm
Peter knapp
(@pknapp66)
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Not sure if I am reading your post correctly, but it sounds like you want to sail in and have your rudders release.
I am not sure how most people do it, but myself and the others that I sail with release our rudders just before
we come into shore. Sticking rudders is a good way to tear your transoms off. Glad to hear that you did get
out and had a good time.

H18m
p16
Venture15

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 6:15 pm
(@bobflesh)
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pknapp66 wrote: Not sure if I am reading your post correctly, but it sounds like you want to sail in and have your rudders release.

It does sound that way but no. I am releasing them prior to pulling up to shore. I did; however, have a difficult time releasing them am I am not a small guy. I found on my sail this weekend I had to pull them loose way in advance or risk not releasing them in time.

 
Posted : July 27, 2015 7:11 pm
Damon Linkous
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bobflesh wrote: I found on my sail this weekend I had to pull them loose way in advance or risk not releasing them in time.

Unfortunately that is normal with the pre-1987 castings on the Hobie 18 after they are 30-plus years old. The metal cam gets messed up and no way to really fix it although some have tried.

Either be very careful coming in through the surf or upgrade to the newer castings.
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures?g2_itemId=10836

or end up with this

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Posted : July 28, 2015 10:26 am
Peter knapp
(@pknapp66)
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I have had pretty good luck with the earlier castings on both of my 18's. When I acquired each one I spent
some time gently using a file to clean up any rough spots on the cams. I also found that smearing a bit of
waterproof grease on cams makes them release easier.

H18m
p16
Venture15

 
Posted : July 28, 2015 2:58 pm
(@bobflesh)
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pknapp66 wrote: I spent
some time gently using a file to clean up any rough spots on the cams. I also found that smearing a bit of
waterproof grease on cams makes them release easier.

I was thinking of polishing the bearing surfaces along with lithium grease. Sounds like the same idea. I am in industrial maintenance so I have access to things that allow me to do this easily.

 
Posted : July 28, 2015 7:29 pm