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Stiletto 27

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(@bacho)
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As I understand prindles were made by what is now performance catamarans who make the Nacra cats. I agree the 16 and 18 are kinda ugly but the 18-2 and 19 are pretty sweet. The 19 is basically a scaled down tornado

Edited by bacho on Oct 03, 2011 - 01:35 PM.

 
Posted : October 3, 2011 7:34 am
Dustin Finlinson
(@Quarath)
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I don't think they are ugly just different. The asymmetrical hulls like the Hobie 16 make them Dagger less which I like as one of the lakes I sail gets pretty shallow before you hit the beach. The Prindles are also tanks when it comes to heavy beach use. I wouldn't mind a 19 or something later on if I decide to upgrade but I like the idea of having a Stiletto 27 someday as well.

Dustin
Magna, UT
Prindle 18

 
Posted : October 4, 2011 9:55 am
bill harris
(@coastrat)
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you'd be lucky to own a prindle...any one of them. i'm a lifetime hobie guy, got my p-16 3 years ago, my h-16 is collecting dust. used to think prindles were goofy looking too, until i owned one, now they're beautiful. simple, strong, light, fast, cheap, heavy payload, heavy wind boat. test drive one before you turn your nose up.

coastrat

 
Posted : October 4, 2011 1:08 pm
(@tahoeprindle18)
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I sailed Prindle 18's before I got my S27 this season.
First time I owned a Prindle and I was really impressed with the P18 for sailing off the beach.

Much safer than a H16 as the Trampoline is way back and the longer hulls and more free board mean you have to be REALLY powered up to even get anywhere close to pitch poling. P18/P16's are great beach boats and the price is right as most people want newer equipment.

But what happened to your Stiletto dreams?
One that needs some TLC just came up for sale on wildjibe.com for $12k

Cheers

Al

Edited by tahoeprindle18 on Oct 04, 2011 - 08:20 PM.

 
Posted : October 4, 2011 2:19 pm
(@tahoeprindle18)
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tami wrote: [quote=optikid]
Some have them on the sides

Please reread my post, in which I mention the Stiletto _23_ which has daggers in the hull.

Actually, the board on the 27 is a centerboard IIRC, it pivots, not drops. I have seen a couple of customized Stiletto 27 which have hull daggers but that isn't a stock config. Here is a VERY customized S27, in fact the same people who did my boat have this one as their latest project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXFlbE8Afhw&feature=youtu.be

Stock 27 is a central daggerboard, the lower frame rubbers grip the board allowing for partial lowering and raking fore or aft for trim. it works ok and is very simple but not the best for clawing upwind.
Its great when driving up a beach, pull the board out lay it on the tramp and drive up the beach.

 
Posted : October 4, 2011 2:29 pm
pete begle
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Harken blocks are standard on all Prindles (no crummy Seaways). Unbattened jib means cleaner tacks, no battens to catch on halyard wire. 40 lbs lighter than a H-16 and deeper bows to greatly reduce pitchpole. With 190 sq ft sail area the P-16 is particularily suited to stronger winds. The P-18 carries three easily and is the best assymetrical cat out there. Pete

prindle pete

 
Posted : October 4, 2011 3:40 pm
Dave Farmer
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Any 27 for $10K is gonna need more money spent on it. Tami is spot on about about needing something 21' plus if you're planning on 4 people aboard. The Stiletto 23 will do that and still have some performance, the Reynold 21 is heavier, with less power, more storage. The H21 is a big beachcat. Supercat 20 could probably be pressed into service if careful not to sail in over 15 kts with that many aboard. The ARC 22 has a crew max of 500 lbs, really a two person boat. The loads on the rigging and platforms go up significantly with big crew weights, so beware in big winds. None have any real accomodations.

Dave

Edited by davefarmer on Oct 16, 2011 - 06:13 PM.

 
Posted : October 16, 2011 2:07 pm
Slightlychilled
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My dad has a Reynolds 21 I think for like 5k. It's in Maryland.

 
Posted : October 16, 2011 2:43 pm
(@soulofasailor)
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Well I know the comedations are not great but I could do small charters on stiletto . But why when I'm looking up boats on bluebook like a 1979 stiletto. Is worth around 7k. The 23 is less

 
Posted : October 17, 2011 3:44 am
(@tdsurf)
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Just to chime in. I am a Hobie 16 Sailor and also owned a Catalina 30 to cruise with the wife and friends. I so badly wanted to upgrade to a stiletto 27 and sell off the other boats as it seemed to be a nice compromise of exhilarating fun yet large enough for the wife and friends. After much consideration and looking at everything in the price range and functionality I ended up purchasing a Seawind 24. The bottom line is this, I have never heard of a Seawind capsizing and for the fact I want to bring my wife, family, friends and kids aboard this was the deal maker. I was out this summer near Fire Island Inlet (NY) watching a Stiletto 27 screaming around, wind was about a steady 20 with the occational gust. and then it happened the stiletto flew a hull and kept on going. Then completely over. Seeing that took the purchase right off the table. I have now been out on my seawind in 20+ kts gusting to 30 and she sailed flat as a board and I hit 22kts recorded on my GPS. The interior accomodations are slightly better than the stiletto you can actually move around below as the hulls are a little wider. Aslo the beam is 16' compared to 14' on the stiletto. It is also trailerable the same way the stiletto is on the expandable trailer. Not sure about the stiletto but anything over 15kts of wind is a VERY wet ride.

 
Posted : November 8, 2012 7:03 am
(@tdsurf)
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Also, the Seawind has daggerboards in each hull and they slant inward. I am able to point nearly as well as most monohulls out in the bay.

 
Posted : November 8, 2012 7:08 am
(@soulofasailor)
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This post is old! I already bought my Reynolds 21 Last November 13th! I have had my boat out in 24+ winds i had no issues but my sails are old! I reached 18 knots with the R21 on this silly lake i am on. I do believe you can Flip any Cat, if the Stiletto was going over and you saw it " Go up and Up and UP then over" it seems the skipper didn't know what to do and never sailed cats before! All i did this year was sail with a bunch of Hobie guys! A totally different breed of people! So awesome to have met them, I have learned so much easy stuff, but stuff like when sailing a MONO you don't think of like, Moving a little faster! You do have time when flying a hull on a cat but you better know when its enough! I had mine almost over one windy day i had a Hull way out of the water" Mistake was falling off" so i quickly cam back up into Irons, then the boat came right back down!

You just have to know what is going on if your not paying attention then you will FLIP Her! I will get a F-Boat someday but i am having to much fun with the R21!

 
Posted : November 8, 2012 7:22 am
(@optikid)
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i have seen a stiletto 23 pichpole so it possible

 
Posted : November 8, 2012 9:04 am
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