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(@onemorecat)
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I am looking for a new trailer, or used in very good condition, to replace the Trailex kit unit that I got with my Hobie 18. The trailer is as old as the boat, 1981 or so, and has not had the same level of care and attention from previous owners as the boat received. When I look at what it would take to bring the trailer back into shape, the time and expense make me consider a replacement instead.

Are there good alternatives to the Trailex out there? The current Trailex is both pricey and apparently without some options on my existing unit (such as cradles rather than rollers). I may still have to transfer the sail box (and get a new lid made) since such things appear to be hen's teeth.

I keep the boat in San Diego, so sources in the southwest are preferred if possible.

Thanks!

 
Posted : October 11, 2021 10:00 am
tominpa
(@tominpa)
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What's your budget. You can buy a brand new Trailex aluminum catamaran trailer for $1730 including shipping. https://boatdollydirect.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1152&language=en&currency=USD&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwY-LBhD6ARIsACvT72NQYq0vuLfRnIuBCLKWEFY19sm4_aTZfEhSfHndXBjSGLr1UWAOc3caAtnTEALw_wcB Or what I would do is use the SearchTempest search engine and look for a used catamaran or boat trailer in your area.

 
Posted : October 11, 2021 10:29 am
dssaak
(@dssaak)
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That model may be too small for a Hobie 18.

 
Posted : October 11, 2021 1:03 pm
Peter knapp
(@pknapp66)
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Most of the time it is easier to find a boat on a trailer and either part out the boat or sell it for a couple hundred bucks. Here is one.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/282061393661415/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A9a57d7e5-0f3e-4c7b-bb43-950dadaa81fa

Also check with Pete begle. Here is his ad.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/boa/d/fawnskin-hobie-catamaran-parts-sails/7392332368.html

Edited by pknapp66 on Oct 11, 2021 - 09:02 PM.

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Posted : October 11, 2021 2:52 pm
(@shortyfox)
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Aluminum is nice, but what really wears out a trailer is U-bolts, L-brackets, springs and other rusty pieces of hardware. And of course the wheels, tires, hubs and bearings are probably the most important. Bearings don't last long in salt water and when you buy a used trailer, if there's any doubt as when the bearings were last packed, pull over and touch the hub. If it's hot, slow down!

 
Posted : October 12, 2021 1:54 am
(@waiex191)
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We rebuilt our trailer for about $200, if I remember correctly. I think it is more time than expense. Is the trailex a rusty steel trailer? Most of that time was wire wheeling off the old rust and painting.
https://www.thebeachcats.com/forums/viewtopic/topic/18471

 
Posted : October 12, 2021 3:19 am
MN3
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I think all trailex are alum - prob not a rust issue

they have unique slot designs to add and remove rollers and yokes, etc and are pretty pricey
not easy to modify without welding gear and skills

but light and don't rust (unless you really neglect them) = $$$

MN3

 
Posted : October 12, 2021 5:37 am
(@brianm)
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Did you ever find a trailer? I have a nice one in Central CA, it’s too big for my 16, would be good for an 18/20

 
Posted : December 6, 2021 7:20 am
(@texastuma)
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onemorecat wrote: I am looking for a new trailer, or used in very good condition, to replace the Trailex kit unit that I got with my Hobie 18. The trailer is as old as the boat, 1981 or so, and has not had the same level of care and attention from previous owners as the boat received. When I look at what it would take to bring the trailer back into shape, the time and expense make me consider a replacement instead.

Are there good alternatives to the Trailex out there? The current Trailex is both pricey and apparently without some options on my existing unit (such as cradles rather than rollers). I may still have to transfer the sail box (and get a new lid made) since such things appear to be hen's teeth.

I keep the boat in San Diego, so sources in the southwest are preferred if possible.

Thanks!

It may be very difficult to find something. I know of trailers around here (TX), but most of them need attention. I replaced everything under the trailer a couple years ago for a few hundred bucks (new axle, hubs, springs, wheels). I would be hesitant on going with an aluminum frame; it will get beat up and there are too many dissimilar metals to not have it fall apart in a few years.

 
Posted : December 6, 2021 11:20 am
(@charlescarlis)
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Ditto to Scott - I've got an aluminum trailer; not a Trailex - one that's a full aluminum I-beamed trailer and have been slowly swapping out all the steel and galvanized steel hardware I can because of the dissimilar metal corrosion; use lots and lots of Tuff-gel. Stainless U-bolts are REALLY pricey now but what you need up against aluminum and aren't a perfect match. I re-pack bearings every winter and continually "re-build" during the winter; it's just what you do with saltwater boats and trailers. About to switch the Northern Tool wheels and tires for some proper hot dipped, galvanized rims. The new, painted steel rims have lasted 3 years and now need to go. Mind you, that's having ramped the boat maybe 6 times?

The frame of the aluminum trailer, however still looks 100%. Those having replaced springs - what load rating did you use? I'm tempted to go to no more than 1,000 pounds; light springs.

 
Posted : December 7, 2021 7:44 am
(@waiex191)
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charlescarlis wrote: Those having replaced springs - what load rating did you use? I'm tempted to go to no more than 1,000 pounds; light springs.

I went with these 500 lb springs:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z7GX4GO

 
Posted : December 7, 2021 2:52 pm
(@charlescarlis)
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So, that's listed as 500# per each (1,000# total)? That helps, cause while your boat is svelte, but my girl is, well - shall we say a little "thicker". 🙂 Still, all in, trailer boat, sail box and cargo I'm at 1,000 probably. How is yours handling with those?

I guess the Real question is - what is a good balance point between spring rating and actual load on them for our boats? I really don't have a clue, I just want the boat to ride a little smoother over bumps and will indeed change wheels/tires and go a little lighter on air pressure there to help as well. I think I am due to replace springs though as well.

 
Posted : December 8, 2021 4:37 am
(@texastuma)
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charlescarlis wrote: So, that's listed as 500# per each (1,000# total)? That helps, cause while your boat is svelte, but my girl is, well - shall we say a little "thicker". 🙂 Still, all in, trailer boat, sail box and cargo I'm at 1,000 probably. How is yours handling with those?

I guess the Real question is - what is a good balance point between spring rating and actual load on them for our boats? I really don't have a clue, I just want the boat to ride a little smoother over bumps and will indeed change wheels/tires and go a little lighter on air pressure there to help as well. I think I am due to replace springs though as well.

I believe I went with a 2-leaf spring. I will have to look at my receipt to see the rating they are. I just called up McClain Trailers, told them what the trailer is used for and ... BAM... custom axle, hubs, springs and wheels ready for me to pickup. During the summer, my trailer gets submerged weekly in saltwater.

If you order online, be careful with receiving hardware that will not handle the salt water or beach life.

 
Posted : December 8, 2021 6:37 am
(@waiex191)
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charlescarlis wrote: How is yours handling with those?

Good

 
Posted : December 8, 2021 7:54 am
(@charlescarlis)
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Hey Scott - what exactly are trailer components designed for saltwater? I've just been buying off-the-shelf stuff, considering it a necessary evil to throw away every 2-3 years. I'd love to be submerging in saltwater once or twice a week - that sounds like a goal, actually,

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 2:30 am
bill40421SE
(@bill40421SE)
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Chuck C.,
When launching my boat....I only let the water touch my rubber tires and leave the rest of my trailer dry.......... 😉

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 2:55 am
MN3
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what exactly are trailer components designed for saltwater?

Gold doesn't rust. get a gold trailer 🙂

You can mitigate the rust by filling a small bug spray (pressurized) canister with soapy water and give your trailer a nice rinse immediately after salt water exposure - i know some power boaters that do this

MN3

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 4:19 am
SC19
 SC19
(@SC19)
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Try this. http://www.saltawayproducts.com/

It's used heavily by saltwater boaters here in South Florida. Just spray down you're trailer with the mixing gun and your done.

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 7:47 am
MN3
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Good call, i use that on my powerboat boat and trailer
but more so to flush salt out of my water cooled engine

(relatively) expensive stuff, and it doesn't store "mixed" very well - it separates but not a bad idea at all. if you mix just the needed amount each time (500:1 iirc) its a great method.

Just spray down you're trailer with the mixing gun and your done.

This requires a water hose and a mixer attachment, not always available at a beach or at the ramp, (but pre mixed in another container would work and would be portable )
- also the product needs to rinse off and drip off, anywhere it puddles salt will reattach

Edited by MN3 on Dec 09, 2021 - 02:23 PM.

MN3

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 8:12 am
(@boatbore)
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After watching a trailer disintegrate in a relatively short period of time, I decided the only way to keep a trailer is to never put it in saltwater. I backup to the point the tires are just a inch or two in the water and push the boat off from there. It probably helps that I have a tilting trailer, but more so that the trailer extends far enough from the axle that the boat doesn't scrape bottom as it goes in the water. To retrieve the boat I use a winch. When I get home everything gets a fresh water rinse.

The Bore

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 10:45 am
(@texastuma)
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charlescarlis wrote: Hey Scott - what exactly are trailer components designed for saltwater? I've just been buying off-the-shelf stuff, considering it a necessary evil to throw away every 2-3 years. I'd love to be submerging in saltwater once or twice a week - that sounds like a goal, actually,

Heavily galvanized. The lug nuts are the first things that go. You've seen where I launch and the races I do. When I get home, I have a round sprinkler that I place under the boat and trailer (as well as the truck when I go to the beach) to wash everything well. Even when the boat and trailer gets rinsed from the top down, the underneath of the axle, arms and other components really don't get rinsed very well. There used to be a car wash in Texas City that had a boat/trailer washing station that had upward jets you can drive over to rinse the bottom. The springs are a coated steel, and those I spray with krylon to seal. Even when I go to the beach and use beach wheels to launch, I rinse the boat and trailer thoroughly when I get home.

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 11:58 am
John Schwartz
(@JohnES)
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Unless the frame is bent, and if it is a Trailex trailer, why not just rebuild it.

Trailex or eTrailer should have the parts you need

Trailex - https://www.trailex.com/products/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=44

eTrailer - https://\www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Parts

 
Posted : December 9, 2021 1:51 pm
SC19
 SC19
(@SC19)
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I was looking for something else and an add for this popped up: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660344_200660344

Add a longer tongue and some crossbars and your in bidness.

 
Posted : December 16, 2021 9:39 am
Edward Hilliard
(@Edchris177)
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SC19 wrote: I was looking for something else and an add for this popped up: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660344_200660344
Add a longer tongue and some crossbars and your in bidness.

Are you really saving much?
Once you buy aluminum beams, along with fittings for cradles etc, & an aluminum extrusion for a tongue extension, you’re only ahead a few hundred $. The tongue extension would have to be long enough to go almost back to the axle.
Finally, that unit states, MAX TOWING SPEED 45 mph.
I think that’s a deal breaker.

E C Hilliard

Nacra 5.7
Bombardier Invitation

 
Posted : December 17, 2021 3:32 am
MN3
 MN3
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the beam connections are no wheres near as robust as on a trailex,

I have seen these in northern tools - would not be my first choice

MN3

 
Posted : December 17, 2021 7:22 am