I would love to travel with my boat which i will when i have a place to go, but it would make my life alot easier if the Beams would allow the telescopic motion so i wouldn't have to take them off all the time! Do any of you know of a place that can do this for me?
Edited by soulofasailor on Sep 17, 2012 - 01:08 PM.
How wide is the Reynolds 21? I didn't realize it was wider than legal.
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Damon Linkous
it is 11 ft wide! H16 is 8ft
You might check out Supercat 20 beams. They telescope to 12'. However the time savings is likely less then you think since you still have to lace the trampolines every time you expand it. Does your trailer have a telescoping ability?
One side of the beam on a SC20 has a smaller diameter allowing it to slide inside the other, on plastic guides. Forced traveler to attach to cable instead of a typical track due to diameter change. Just things to keep in mind.
H21 SE telescopes also, but I believe is a curved beam. One trick I have seen is pull it behind a big camper, makes the wide boat look more standard width.
Scott
Hobie 18M in Chicago
Pop that baby up at 45 degrees a la Tornado! It's probably cheaper and easier to modify your trailer than the boat. Although the 1000 lbs might require some special engineering. You'll look like your flying a hull the whole trip. Modifying the trailer will also save time setting up the beams and the tramp each trip.
Edited by redtwin on Sep 17, 2012 - 04:45 PM.
A tilt trailer only solves one of the problems, most of the public ramps in our area are only 10 feet wide. There are some double wide ramps but they are fewer and further between. A boat 11 foot on the beam has to go way past 45 degrees to get to the 8'6" max width rule, then the height becomes an issue on anything but major highways.
Check out this tilt trailer headed down I-95!! It's a tunnel hull, I guess that qualifies as a catamaran.
The width on the ramp shouldn't be an issue, he would not no more problems with a tilt than he does now because he still launches the boat assembled. The ramps are 10' wide but the boat sits over the curbs. Height it not an issue with tilt either. Even if he hauled the boat at 90 degrees it would be plenty possible to keep it under 13'.
You would have to use an electric hydraulic pump and a ram to lift the boat. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out but a decent set-up is gonna cost you.
No width on ramp isn't a issue. i launch off of a short ramp i just push it in the mud! That trailer is so cool, but that will cost some money! I don't think i will be doing that... NEXT Ideas?
Does your current trailer telescope? Any thought to the H21SE or SC20 beams?
Scott
Hobie 18M in Chicago
Telescopic beams are not as easy as they sound. Because of the distance that they are apart it takes some finesse to pull the tubes apart because they want to bind. At the same time you have to widen the trailer
which always seems to resist a bit. For my 10 foot beam I am planning to build a tilt trailer. I don't think the telescopic beams are much of a time saver.
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Venture15
Seems to me that with the cost and effort to get your boat/trailer to be road legal you could go a buy a "travel size" boat with 8' beam. You may solve two of your dilemmas with one shot - you have been trying to figure out how to beat the Hobies on your lake - getting a light and fast boat would be a good start.
You said you wanted to travel with the boat and then described the ramp you use on your home Lake? I didn't follow your logic. When traveling you would definitely have to pick your ramps.
How can the 11 foot beam not be a problem on 10' ramps?- Might be that Virgina boat ramps are special, but the narrow ones usually have bulk heads on both sides. Yes the trailer wheels will make it, down the ramp but the hulls would be a bitch to get off the top of the bulkhead or past the pilings!
Sell the Reynolds and get a folding Trimaran. Problem solved.
How can the 11 foot beam not be a problem on 10' ramps?-
the trailer is still only 8.5' wide (max)
as long as there aren't sea walls on each side of the ramp.. it doesn't matter how wide the boat is... the trailer will fit
MN3
Its not a problem just thought maybe someone would have had a idea for me! My ramp at my lake is one side DOCK other side of ramp is BEACH so NP there! no sea walls! My boat is fast once the wind is above 5mph i can beat the hobies once the wind is at 15 other time they take a while in passing me so, NO" not selling HER! π
My boat is fast once the wind is above 5mph i can beat the hobies once the wind is at 15
Surely you are not serious?
The Hobie Bravo, Wave, & Getaway,(plastic, slow, but fun Cats) could be beaten, any other Hobie would have to be very poorly sailed to lose.
A sailing acquaintance on the Island has an H17 sport. I can beat him any given day, IF the water is rough, those skinny hulls like to hobby horse. Give him smoother water & it's a Cat fight, especially pointing. I have to work to point as high & match his speed.
I ran into a Reynolds 21 on the far side of the lake, nice fellow,nice looking boat, & good for what they were designed to do.
He was going to run to Thorah Is & back, I was crossing the chuck for home. Wind was a broad reach at 13 kts, gusting 15kt,(15-17mph) as recorded on the mid lake buoy. It wasn't even close. I reached 21 mph on the GPS, & by the time he reached Thorah Is I was several miles ahead.
Edited by Edchris177 on Sep 19, 2012 - 04:53 PM.
E C Hilliard
Nacra 5.7
Bombardier Invitation
optikid wrote:
Optikid: Is that a COFFIN?!
I quite understand that the trailer will fit, but on narrow ramps, typically the ramp is not the critical width. You also have some sort of structure to tie your boat to once you put the boat in the water. Around here, 99% of the time you have dock or bulkhead on either side of the ramp. The better designed ones have those features above the water, thus if you back your 8.5' trailer down the 10 foot ramp the trailer will make it perfectly with room to spare - I know this through experience. However, if you have an 11' beam and the docks/bulkheads are 10' apart your boat will not hit the water. If anyone is willing to experiemnt I would love to watch.
The original post was that Soul wanted to travel with his boat. I had already guessed the on that he uses works, I had concentrated on the fact that he wanted to travel. Not sure what the point of this thread is anymore if he is happy with his current ramp and that the prevailing opinion is that all ramps are wide enough for an 11' beam. I would certainly be happy on a lake where my cruising cat whooped up on all the hot rods.
hesmysnowman wrote: [quote=optikid]
Optikid: Is that a COFFIN?!
looks like a sweeeet cat box to me!
Yes i do want to move my boat to lake Erie when my Hobie friends go to LAKE ERIE and i will do this! I was just trying to see if any of you know of a designer that i could talk to , i see that none of you do! That is ok too. I will start another post with last comment!
Soul man,
Just an FYI the Reynolds 21 has a Portsmouth number of 81.5, the Hobie 16 has a 76. If both boats are being sailed competently the H16 is about 5.5% faster.
and don't even think about taking on a Stiletto, the skipper would have to have 'keeled over.' (sailing pun intended)
well the ratings wont matter once i am in 15+ plus blow! well yes it would once i am either hanging around you or just pass you!
π this weekend i got 22knots!