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36TH AMERICA’S CUP: protocol released

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summary:

• The boats will be a 75 foot, high performance monohull boats governed by the
AC75 Class Rule
• The AC75 Class rule will be published 31st March 2018

• Suitable for head to head match racing and close competition
To permit technological development to spearhead the development of sailing and
maintain the America’s Cup as the world’s premier sailing event

• Relevance to the sport of sailing & connection to its community of sailors
• For the yachts to be demanding to sail, rewarding top level skill for all sailors on the
yacht
• To provide competitive racing in light and stronger wind conditions
• To provide safe position for a guest racer on board the yacht
• To incorporate practical requirements for the launching, retrieval and transporting
• To be sailed by a crew of approximately 10- 12 sailors

The requirement for a yacht to be constructed in the country of its yacht club is a
fundamental principle of the Deed of Gift and this Protocol

• All sailing crew members who compete on the race boat must meet the nationality
clause requirements which are:
• When racing, at least 20% or 3 sailors of the total crew (which ever is higher) must be
true nationals. The remainder of the crew need to comply with the residency rules.
• True Nationals, i.e. a citizen of the country of the competing yacht club.
• Resident of the Country: The sailor must be physically present in the country of the
yacht club for a minimum of 380 days in the 2 year period between the 1st September
2018 and 31st August 2020. Which equates to just over 6 months of each year.

It is intended that The Match venue and Challenger Selection Series be in Auckland,
New Zealand in March 2021

1 million USD at the moment of the acceptance of the challenge + 1 million USD to be
paid no later than 30th of November 2018
. The latter can be paid in four instalments;
Late entries: 1 million USD penalty;
• Performance bond: 1 million USD
America’s Cup World Series: 300,000 USD per each event;
• AC Christmas Regatta: no entry fee will be due.

THE PRADA CUP
• Prada Group has acquired the rights to be the “Title and Naming Sponsor” of the
Preliminary Regattas and of the Challenger Selection Series as well as the “Presenting
Sponsor” for the 36th America’s Cup Match.

MN3

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 5:21 am
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Just a little over my budget... I am out. 😕

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 7:12 am
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If one of you want to cover the other 99.99999999%..count me in.

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 7:14 am
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also need to include the cost of design and build of 2 boats, and pay for the teams and crew
and the more you win, the more you have to pay (300k per race)

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Posted : September 29, 2017 7:31 am
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Yeah, I wondered about the $300K per event cost... I know that is chump change in the grand scheme of AC racing, but making it (relatively) more expensive to win than lose. I know this isn't claimer racing, and keeping the costs low is downright anathema to yachties in general, but that is a notable reversal. Then again, I've (sadly) no resemblance to Larry Ellison or his wallet!

While I appreciate the costs of the events and the value of the brand, I won't be calling it the 'Prada Cup' anytime soon. 🙄 I liked the catamarans but understand why another country would want to change the paradigm... guess I was hoping for trimarans, proas, or something more than monos.

Randii

Edited by randii on Sep 29, 2017 - 02:30 PM.

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 10:27 am
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I volunteer to be a guest racer on board. JK, that will be a pay for play seat, and who knows how much that will be??? Big $$$$$.

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 10:46 am
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While I appreciate the costs of the events and the value of the brand, I won't be calling it the 'Prada Cup' anytime soon.

It is not cheap to run an even like this - Fresh Caviar flown in ain't cheap!

and the lawyers will make millions and millions arguing everything from: what color the boats may be, to how fast the wind can be during racing, to what color umbrellas will they put in their drinks...

I liked the catamarans but understand why another country would want to change the paradigm... guess I was hoping for trimarans, proas, or something more than monos.

winner gets to re-write the rules - these will be pretty amazing and fast mono's

they have already done multi-hulls, tris and cats.. (i wont expect foiling proas - but sounds fun to me)

they haven't done foiling mono's

Edited by MN3 on Sep 29, 2017 - 04:59 PM.

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Posted : September 29, 2017 10:57 am
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that will be a pay for play seat, and who knows how much that will be??? Big $$$$$.

musicians and movie stars are always welcome too - no pay needed

MN3

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 11:01 am
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The IMOCA 60 is more or less the state of the art in high performance monohulls, so we are getting a bigger and likely very similar boat with a crew to run it. The devil is in the details of the design rules. Canting keels need hydraulics so maybe the bikes will be back, since in match racing speed of maneuvers is of the essence. Not to mention I think we have seen that arm grinding is not as powerful and sustainable as pumping pedals, that is unless they rule it out. But this is something the Kiwis now know works pretty well. Then adding in that they still have hands free to do something else, like manage control features.

Main thing is to hope that they let us watch on YouTube again. If they don't then I won't be following this next round.

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 1:39 pm
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Sailing Anarchy has a good blurb on the Cup, with video, pdf's etc. about half way down the page.

Looks like the bikes will be in, if they believe they can help. It was interesting to hear Grant Dalton say they would like to see serious development of foiling for the monohulls.

http://sailinganarchy.com/

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 3:16 pm
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Good grief. Foils, foils, foils, let's get the boats back in the water where they belong, they are boats right? All this newfangled stuff is really cool but, just sail and use a cat!!!! But I guess that would be boring. Lol.

 
Posted : September 29, 2017 9:17 pm
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randii wrote: I liked the catamarans but understand why another country would want to change the paradigm... guess I was hoping for trimarans, proas, or something more than monos.

http://harryproa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/volvoproa.pdf

Edited by MN3 on Oct 06, 2017 - 04:35 PM.

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Posted : October 6, 2017 10:33 am
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Cool! Extra points for oddity, for sure... 🙂
I'm not sure the world is ready for high-performance proas, but I love to see the continuing development. Thx for the link!

Randii

 
Posted : October 6, 2017 11:21 am
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There was a Proa entered in the Race to Alaska
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2P9-ZyNcE

E C Hilliard

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Posted : October 6, 2017 3:27 pm
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That Volvo proa, just wow. It hurts my head thinking about shunting.

 
Posted : October 6, 2017 3:33 pm
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We have the first AC 75 in the water!

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Posted : September 6, 2019 5:13 am
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https://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2019/09/05/video-team-new-zealand-splashes-ac75/

Edited by MN3 on Sep 06, 2019 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted : September 6, 2019 5:15 am
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That's an interesting hull shape. Wonder if it had anything to do with helping to break connection with the water surface and how it achieves this.
You would think a simple flat shape would suffice.

Edited by badfish on Sep 06, 2019 - 01:25 PM.

 
Posted : September 6, 2019 7:24 am
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I read in another thread (SA) that they think the hull shape is more about reducing drag above the water vs aqua dynamics - referring to the water droplet shape (round front with a tail)

i guess they plan to spend more time in the air than in the puddles

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Posted : September 6, 2019 9:17 am
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Interesting. It looks like a very athletic, carbon-fiber Humpback Whale.

Can’t wait to see one breach.

 
Posted : September 8, 2019 8:35 pm
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Can’t wait to see one breach.

:prost:

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Posted : September 9, 2019 2:03 am
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Posted : September 11, 2019 6:24 am
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Open transom looks like it would make for a "beach access" Pool at rest.

81' Hobie 18
Lake Michigan South Shore Line

 
Posted : September 11, 2019 7:34 am
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it's so the jet ski's can pull right up . 🙂

MN3

 
Posted : September 11, 2019 8:22 am