Juana Good Time Regatta 2014

I'll be there!

Looks like it's just us three.

I will be there with my p-16.

We will be there.

We will be there...wouldn't miss it! Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Need some more F18's...come on guys sign up for a good time 🙂

Lets get serious about this! Less than a month away. Early registration ends August 31, save $10 which will pay for FOUR draft beers during the weekend. :prost:

Who's IN? Lets make it a big one.

http://www.thebeachcats.com/event/view/Date/20140905/viewtype/details/eid/686

Damon , I talked to Juana a week and a half ago and she said there was already 15 boats registered and that that was a good # so early. Asked her also if she could put up registration list on her site and she said she will look into it. Doug

I'm in, F18

Somehow I didn't realize that the Juana Good Time Regatta had online registration and payment available.

Register Now!
https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?llr=z9uoh9lab&oeidk=a07e9ehr4mcf7dbb533

I much prefer to register and prepay in advance, one less stress item to deal with onsite. When I have to pay at the event my wallet is usually a long walk away in the heat.

The Gastons will be there on at least 2 boats, maybe 3. Not quite up to the number of Tepe Racing

Tepe has ya smoked numbers wise - there's a bunch! Great fellas.. those guys usually bring 4+ boats, in various stages of being dis-assembled and pieced together on one or two trailers max. Some sail at night in complete darkness other than the beach and are great guys! Last year my GF and I hosted the entire group over to our condo for a huge cookout! Was a great time! Don't know if i'll make it this year due to me closing on a house two weeks after the event ( $$$$$ ) I'm SUPER BUMMED……. I wanna go and form a group on an off day to cruise the actual gulf! Damn i wish i could go!
Tim

Edited by fxloop on Aug 28, 2014 - 07:50 AM.

Well, I'm a late entrant, but I do plan to attend. Been working on reglassing the keels of my 16, which should be completed this weekend. Looking foward to meeting everyone!

Just registered and booked a hotel room over at the Hampton Inn.

Edited by motivated on Aug 28, 2014 - 09:11 PM.

Tim, I was just telling a friend about the amazing dinner we had! We are bummed you aren't going to make it, were probably going to starve! Lol
We might have the Gastons beat in numbers.... But somehow they always manage to come in ahead of us! One of these years maybe we will beat them.... I hope. Lol
We leave Wednesday evening, should be sailing Thursday by noon, maybe earlier.

teperacing wrote: should be sailing Thursday by noon, maybe earlier.

I'll probably be in the parking lot setting up Thursday unless I get in early enough Wednesday to get on the water.

I have some questions about this event. I'm bringing a Hobie 16, may not get down there to get warmed up till Friday.

1. I presume all of the boats will be racing together and the times will be handicapped (aside from the Hobie Waves). Is it a beach or water start?

2. All the races I've done have been rather informal. What's this one like? Is this serious, head's down racing or more of a fun race?

3. I just finished watching replays of the 2013 America's Cup. There were lots of rules (boundaries, who has right of way when overlapped, etc.). Do I need to study up on all of these rules and such?

4. Does anyone remember the course? Is it an "out and back" or does it have multiple gates/bouy turns?

5. How many boats show up for this event? Any idea how many Hobie 16's?

6. I have a spinnaker. Are there any penalties handed out for cheating (j/k)?

Thanks in advance. Any other tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.

Edited by motivated on Aug 29, 2014 - 07:34 PM.

Karl, we had the same concerns our first time also... It is a race, but it's a fun race! The other sailors are a great bunch of guys who will gladly answer any questions you might have. On Saturday it is the distance race to a marker that you have to round to port as I recall, we start in the water, the start line is between a buoy and the committee boat. It's a fun race and they will deliver beer to your boat during race! On Sunday it is barrel races, they still confuse me after 6 years, we always have Captain Kirk draw it out in the sand or on a pizza box to remind us how they work, you are welcome to attend that meeting with us! Lol The only negative to this race is that you will have a blast, it is guaranteed, then you will be hooked and come back every year, we come from Ohio and it costs us a small fortune, but we would not miss it for anything! The people and juannas makes it a wonderful time! Looking forward to meeting you, I've been admiring your boat via the Internet for years, I'd love to try the chute on your boat!
Your friend Glenn Tepe

Ps... I think there were 23 Hobie 16s last year.

Glen,

Thanks for the reply. I found a course map in the photo albums. Are you the folks that bring your boats triple-stacked on the trailers?

Mine is in many pieces right now, hoping to have everything back together before we need to hit the road.

All the best.

We double stack, I wish there was a way to triple stack!

We usually doublestack our boats, have brought 3 on one trailer with the third being dismantled. We always have extra bits and so does everyone else if you are missing something, there is key sailing just up the road, a Hobie dealer if you need anything else.

Karl,

There really isn't any boundaries to worry about. Once you know the course its pretty obvious.

Regarding your spinnaker, I would definitely remove it and race without it. Having a spin would put you in the spin class and not in the 16 class (I think, I know you usually want to separate the spin and nonspin boats). It also would make your distance race twice as long. You'd be burned out if you were sailing the same distance course as the big spin boats. especially if the wind it really light. Plus you'd definitely have more fun racing against other boats like yours than anything else. Lets you know how your doing when you race and can build up your skills better I think.

If we have a bunch of 16's like we did last year I hope they take out the single handed 16's and put them in the open class. Just so the 16 class is consistent we can all sail boat for boat. Would make the scoring for our class easier. So bring a crew!! I believe you sail the race differently if you know a guy has to give you time cause he is single handed.

You can always find crew at juannas, I think we might have a guy not on a boat if you need one.

i was thinkin i was kinda crazy to drive 8 hours from Hilton Head to the Juannas regatta, but you guys have got me convinced i cant miss it. Bringin a 1987 Prindle 18.
how far is the race on sat ? or how many hours until my hulls fill with water and i should begin to panic ?
i was out for three hours today and one hull had about an inch or so and the other had 4 inches of water .
will someone rescue me and my boat or just hand me beers ????
looking forward to a great time --joe

I'm sure someone will rescue you! Lol why is she filling with water? Could be a simple fix. Time of race depends on wind obviously, I'm thinking it's 10 miles round trip, maybe less? Worse case, you could beach boat for a quick hull dump and get back at it.

I will bring some resin and mat . so look for Blade F16 "Too Sharp to Touch" sail # 526

This is based on past years, not the NOR

Straight line distance from the start to 129 (the 16 turn mark, half way) is approximately 9.5 miles

Straight line distance from the start to 131 (the turn mark for non 16 non spin) is approximately 13 miles

Hello Everybody-
Getting ready to make the trip out for the “goodtime” and I just wanted to expand on some of the points made previously in this thread.

A question was asked if this was “serious, head's down racing or more of a fun race?”
The fair response would be that it is both. As a relative newbie to cat racing I have spent the last few years taking in comments and points of view regarding the specific topic of fun vs. serious. I feel that since the question has now been asked that some of these ideas should be put out there for consideration.

I will quote friend & longtime H16 sailor Jim Gates; “If you pay money to enter a race, then the race is serious!”

It must be qualified, however, that “serious” is not “not fun!”
What is serious is that there are a lot of expensive boats sailing in close proximity to each other in competition. There are 2 sets of rules which must be obliged in any regatta. The racing rules of sailing which provide the framework for good order and discipline on the course, and the class rules that govern the parameters to which your individual boat must meet.

The racing rules of sailing where designed first and foremost to prevent collision by establishing “right of way”. I think it can be agreed upon that a collision that causes damage or injury is not “fun”. It is every sailors’ personal responsibility to have a fundamental understanding of what the rules are and what they mean. I say this not to scare away new blood but to remind everyone that the risks are significantly higher than if you are just going out for a Sunday sail. It is in every sailors’ best interest to review, study, and understand the rules. On a personal note, I have committed my fair share of fouls on the course and have been extended more than my fair share of grace as I have progressed in my learning and understanding of cat racing. The Pizza Box course study with Team Tepe sounds like a great way to dot the I's and cross the T's! This is just further testament to what a great group of sailors congregate at these regattas as they embrace a “newbies” presence and coach them on how to run with the big dogs.

The class rules are a little more black and white than the racing rules. I say this because interpreting class rules does not require split second decision making while on the race course. These rules can be obliged before you even leave the beach. When the race committee or NOR states that individual class rules apply then there should be every effort by the individual to comply with those rules before they hit the water.
As a H16 sailor I love that there are pretty tight parameters for which the boat and team must meet. This keeps the cost of ownership down while in theory leveling the competitive playing field. Through many conversations I have also come to understand that the F18 sailors also enjoy having pretty strict class rules. I mention this only because if it is determined that a “class” will be established for the regatta then the burden falls on us to self-police. There is not anyone weighing boats/crew or checking to see if you have a non-compliant trampoline. However, at a bare minimum, if the H-16s are to have their own fleet and class rules are to apply, come with crew, get up to the 285lbs minimum, and sail with Hobie sails on the boat. Anything less is a direct contradiction to the spirit of racing in a class. These are issues that could and should be addressed before the boats even hit the water. Like ConnerG stated, no one wants to have to race “open” if what they really wanted to do was race in a “class”.

To summarize, this is a serious race that is a lot of fun. When Team Tepe passes me with their 30 year old boats I smile inside as it is representative of what one design H16 racing is all about. When I miraculously find myself keeping up with the Gastons, the Vaughns, Jim Gates, or Karl and Bridget, I smile again because I know they aren’t letting off the gas to go easy on me. It is extremely fun racing!

What is not fun is a collision or injury. What is not fun is to drive long distances, pay money to race, and watch trophies being handed out to under-crewed boats, under-weight crews, and boats with aftermarket sails.
So, bone up on the rules, get class compliant and let’s get ready to rumble! Look forward to seeing all the regulars and to meeting the first timers!

Jason “Boz” Bosley

Edited by captboz on Sep 01, 2014 - 03:50 PM.

Yeah , we got screwed out of 3rd place last year to a single handed boat. I hate having to wait till trophies to determine that you corrected out behind someone cause they were single handed. On light air days I'm sure weight makes a huge difference. Last year we mentioned it to the race officer and he said he thought about it.....

I was also thinking today about how they determine who traveled the furthest to get to the race. I'm sure the Tepe's know.... Is it based on who drove the furthest? Or does flying count as well? Do you have to leave from home? I've been in Texas for over half the month... I'm flying into Birmingham from El Paso, Texas and then leaving Bham for Navarre... That's like 1500 miles of traveling??? Do I win???? 🙂 Someone needs to put the Tepe's to the test. On top of that I've got to fry out of Bham to North Dakota. That's a long way too right???